As an American, the US participation in the Ukrainian conflict as well as the Palestinian genocide are beyond reproach. Many describe them as proxy wars, but I’m not there yet.

During the Cold War, there was the Afghanistan, Vietnam, South America, Cuba, etc. These were proxy wars because there was a clear adversary on the other side. The Soviet Union.

Now, who is that? Russia? China? Who is “our enemy”? I see it was war is good for business and projection of power.

Am I wrong?

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    Dude, Russia IS the enemy. If you let Ukraine fall, the Baltic states and Poland are next. Russia ADMITTED as much. And China looks at Taiwan. Do you not understand the idea of democracy and deterrence?

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    Interesting take on Ukraine and Palestine. Russia invades Ukraine, and the US supplies the defender. Israel invades Palestine and the US supplies the attacker. I am curious how you find both beyond reproach.

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    Watr in Ukraine is proxy war

    The reality is that NATO and the United States, are now, without question, in a proxy war with Russia," former CIA director and US defense secretary Leon Panetta told the ABC.

    "Maybe it’s not a direct war, but it certainly is a proxy war, in terms of their efforts to make Putin pay a price.

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    Ugh, my take is the US is supporting Ukraine because Putin’s a cunt and is trying to destabilize the west.

    And because Ukraine started kicking their asses the moment they invaded, which is amazing given the lukewarm response the west had at the beginning of the invasion.

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      I don’t see it as OP equated Ukraine to Palestine, just theoretizes that there is common other side in those conflicts and that reasons for those wars are not what we think they are.

      Interesting idea, but I don’t see it.

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        Its about as “interesting” as being an anti-vaxxer. Questioning reality for the sake of it as opposed to any actual solid reason. The reasons behind the Ukraine war are clear as day.

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    In Ukraine, yes. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia. The last 30 years of NATO expansion and USA animosity against Russia are enough evidence in my opinion.

    In Palestine, no. Israel and the USA are committing a Genocide against the Palestinians, or at least, is a USA backed Genocide.