• Optional@lemmy.world
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    She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

    Same as it ever was

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      Why do people keep saying this?! Sure, he babbled some when he ran in 2015, but at you could hear the words and insert your own meaning. We can’t even pretend to parse anything out of this speech. Hell, his own supporters are walking out on his rallies.

      If your grandpa was living alone and conversing with you like this, you would quietly be contemplating a rest home in his very near future. People this far gone can no longer live alone.

      Go back to the 80s and 00s and have a listen. Really. Watch a video or three. Doesn’t matter if you agree with what he was saying, his speech was clear, on target.

      Can’t say when I noticed the sharp decline, hard to spot, a boiled frog thing. 2019 I think? Compared to then, the man has fallen off a cliff.

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        He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016, anyone could have, and did see it, and say it then.

        Unfortunately, republiQans are a cult in every literal sense that matters. trump only needs to stay alive and they’ll vote for him.

        The fact that he’s worse than ever will be borne by them as a secret shame; no one will talk about it, it makes everyone in the cult uncomfortable, and it will not deter them in the slightest.

        It’s 2024 and I think as Americans we still don’t have consensus on how unfathomably broken the republiQans have made politics. It’s virtually unrecognizable from the viewpoint of someone even in the 60’s.

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          He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016

          Can’t say much for his supporters either.

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        Even as late as the 2016 RNC debates he was still speaking clearly, responding to his opponents, and occasionally making a coherent point.

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        I don’t see anything different about his rambling, tbh. I think the only notable difference is him working out nicknames while in front of an audience instead of ahead of time.

        His talking points aren’t landing, so he’s fishing around for something that gets the reaction he’s looking for.

        I think he would have done the same if “build a wall and make Mexico pay for it” was met with confusion.

        He was always this incoherent, but he had “better” slogans to fall back on.

        I’d say it’s probably more due to him alienating most of his former team, and then surrounding himself with more incompetent yes men, than cognitive decline. His baseline of cognitive capacity wasn’t high in the first place.

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      Theodore Roosevelt got shot in fucking lung and still finished his speech. Trump barely or maybe it was glass who knows (literally two weeks later was completely healed) yet got wisk away by four agents then wore a tampon on his ear.

      Fuck weird Trump and sounds like he has dementia.

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      Nah, he’s definitely worse now.

      It’s just he gets worse at about the same speed we get used to it.

      So he’s constantly lowering the bar, and if “not trump” is enough, that means everyone else’s bar constantly gets lowered as well.

      If Dem voter’s only standard is not being trump, we end up with people who will take money from anyone

      It’s pretty much the reason AIPAC is so blatantly buying primary elections these days. They used to hide it, now it’s literally “fuck you money” against anyone that calls them out for genocide.

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      I mean Jackson and Lincoln both got shot, at least Jackson wasn’t a bitch about it.