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    nsulting people doesn’t change any minds, but neither does coddling them, pretending they have a point.

    Are you implying that I have insulted someone? If so, please let me know or show me a sample. I, on the other hand, get insulted and called names on here daily. But I haven’t called anyone names. So I’m not sure what you mean.

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      It was a description of how calling you names won’t change your mind, but neither does pretending that you have a point. You’ve clearly turtled up because people insult you on here, but consider how else someone is supposed to get through to you when the answer of why you’re wrong is incredibly simple? You’re completely walled off from reality.

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        You’ve clearly turtled up because people insult you on here

        Nah, I don’t mind the insults, but it was really just the same comments and insults over and over with many of the same people. So those people know my reasoning by now.

        Funny you mention the insults tho, because when I mention I get insulted on here, I get lots of comments and variations of, “Oh you are just crying victim. No one is insulting you.” Um…

        I mean, how many responses can I possibly have for “So you want Trump to win! Admit it!” or “You’re not even American, you’re russian. Admit it!!” lol Tho to be honest, as much as I argue with those guys, you’d think they’d realize that if I wanted Trump to win, I’d happily admit it on here. That would drive them crazy!

        And why do I get all this hate? Because I post an article—just an article—from widely-read sites that get way more traffic than Lemmy. I didn’t write it, edit it, or produce it. Yet suddenly, I’m labeled a Trump supporter. Think about that logic for a second. Think about the level of censorship people are pushing for here. They don’t want certain news articles to be seen. Seriously, let that sink in.

        You’re completely walled off from reality.

        Why? Because i am still voting for third party?! I mean, it’s not really that deep. I’m voting for my values, and I’m not scared of Trump. I won’t vote out of fear. As I said many times, I respect and support your right to vote how you wish. I deserve that same respect.

        Half of the entire country is not voting for Harris. Does that mean that every single one of them is “walled off from reality”? Is every single person that’s not voting for Harris a fascist?! Is every single person that’s not voting for Harris just clueless? All those millions of people are just ignorant and insane?

        Nearly all of my critics here on Lemmy would answer “yes” to those questions. The Democrats on this platform have become just as self-righteous, if not more so, than the very Republicans they accuse of the same behavior.

        So no, I’m not “walled off from reality” and I’m not Terrance Howard. I simply am voting for who I want to, and not voting for how I don’t want to. Yes, it’s really that simple. I don’t like Harris. I don’t like Trump. So I’m not voting for either one of them. I don’t care how ignorant you think I am or walled from reality I am, etc.

        I’ve been alive for longer than most Lemmys have been able to vote. I’ve seen what can be done, and what ISN’T being done. By both parties. And guess what? So have many others.

        You all can keep voting out of fear. It’s totally within your rights. I won’t.

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          “I’m voting for my values, and I’m not scared of Trump. I won’t vote out of fear.” This is the epitome of privilege, and why people dislike you. I think that warrants more introspection.

          [Pause for introspection]

          Do other people have things to fear about his idealogy? How precisely do you suggest that they deal with that risk? If you don’t fear him and what he’ll do to you, and you don’t care what he’ll do to other people who don’t deserve it enough to lift a finger, or put your purity politics aside, then you are selfish and idiologically unfit for the 2 party system that we currently live in. A based person with your ideals would vote for what’s better based on the system we have rather than the system they want, and then lobby, call, donate, and canvas for system that they want.

          So we arrive at two options, either you are a sociopath who doesn’t understand why letting bad things happen to other people is bad, or you’re incredibly uninformed about the ramnifications of your actions whether purposefully or unintentionally… or you’re an AI bot wasting everyone’s time being fed prompts by some shithead Jimmy Dore type. It doesn’t really matter because the explanation has been given to you dozens of times and you some how read enough to respond to it all and then completely miss the point about other people being important, not just yourself. Anti-social bellyaching isn’t going to get you any praise online in largely progressive circles.

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            This is the epitome of privilege, and why people dislike you

            Because I don’t live my life in fear?!

            either you are a sociopath

            You realize almost half of the country is voting for him, right? Are they ALL sociopaths?!

            Anti-social bellyaching isn’t going to get you any praise online in largely progressive circles.

            I’m not anti-social, I actually have a very full life. And I’m not looking for praise online. Dude, i posted a news article. I didn’t write it. So do you think this community should censor/remove articles that are about third parties?! If so, message the mods.

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              “Living in fear” is very different from the reality of what you argue for, which is “being apathetic to those who will suffer from the consequences of my actions”

              You quoted me saying either and then didn’t include the other possibility lol… Yes, Trump voters all fit into one of those two categories, making you not much different.

              Never said you didn’t live a full life, wanted praise, that you wrote the article, or that the community should censor you. Being selfish is antisocial, and you spend your whole time in here complaining that you get downvoted, dismissed wholehearted, ridiculed, interspersed with missing everyone’s points about why something is empathetic to do, and why what you spread isn’t. I don’t think you do any of that for praise, I think you either don’t have fully functional empathy or you’re too into weeds to find your way out through logic. I don’t believe you can logic anyone out of a belief if they didn’t logic their way into it and so the way they lurch back to their original nonsense is always more telling than the nonsense itself.

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                being apathetic to those who will suffer from the consequences of my actions”

                I said I am not afraid of Trump. I stand by what I said.

                Yes, Trump voters all fit into one of those two categories, making you not much different.

                If you feel half the entire country are sociopaths, well…good luck.

                you spend your whole time in here complaining

                Nope. My post history: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

                I think you either don’t have fully functional empathy or you’re too into weeds to find your way out through logic.

                Or maybe, just maybe, I don’t agree with you. Could just be that simple.

                I support and respect your right to vote for who you wish, please respect mine. Thank you!

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                  You’re pathetically apathetic, not fearful, congrats.

                  That’s not what I said. You ironically refuse the existence of the other category, lol. Freudian inspiration for that?

                  Your post history shows exactly what I said.

                  That was obvious from the get-go, but now that you’ve demonstrated evidence for why you act the way you do, it’s no longer interesting.

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                    You’re pathetically apathetic, not fearful, congrats.

                    That’s exactly what the duopoly wants you to think. They want you to be afraid of the “other side.” You’re free to feel that way. I don’t.

                    Your post history shows exactly what I said.

                    That I post mostly socialist articles to the socialist communities? I don’t remember you saying that, but if you did, then yay!

                    That was obvious from the get-go, but now that you’ve demonstrated evidence for why you act the way you do, it’s no longer interesting.

                    K, and if you are really annoyed by me, feel free to block me too. Thank you!