• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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    Nothing says saving democracy like keeping people off the ballots.

    Exactly.

    Funny how many Lemmy’s forget about what democracy is. And a lot here seem to be against diversity of thought and viewpoints as well.

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      You are still free to vote for him, or anyone else. That’s democracy.

      But there are over 300 million Americans. They can’t all be on the ballot.

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        Agreed. But seriously, the Democratic Party is not open to having other parties on the ballot.

        I wouldn’t have voted for Cornel West anyway, but there’s an entire group within the Democratic Party whose main job is to keep third parties off the ballot.

        Having said that, if a third party hasn’t followed the rules to be on the ballot, then I am fine with them being dropped from it.

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          The Democratic Party is not responsibile for helping other parties get elected.

          Quite the opposite. The other parties are opponents, and Democrats are partly responsible for making sure their opponents obey all applicable election rules.

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            The Democratic Party is not responsible for helping other parties get elected.

            Of course not. But they sure do seem to work extra hard to keep other parties off of the ballot.

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                I didn’t disregard anything they said. And indeed, I agreed to part of it. Are you are sure you are reading the right thread?

                Also, please stay civil. Just because you don’t agree with me, doesn’t mean my opinion is “shitty.”

                How about we not get so personal in our discussions?

                I respect and support your right to your opinion. Please offer me the same courtesy. Thank you!

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                  I am being respectful, and this is the internet. If you can’t take a random stranger calling your opinion shitty then you should grow some thicker skin and maybe not have such a shitty opinion.

                  Thank you!

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                    Um, it’s not about my hurt feelings, friend.

                    I was referring to the civility rule of this sub. Rule number 3. (Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!)

                    Plenty of comments like yours get removed, because the awesome mods here want this place to remain civil and grown up in discussions.

                    Also, you don’t have to insult someone to argue your opinion. I promise.

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              Yes, just like lawyers work extra hard to get their opponent’s case dismissed.

              It’s an adversarial system. It depends on each side being hypervigilant about what their opponents are doing.

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                I’m not disagreeing with you, but instead of worrying about “spoiler” votes, they could focus on having strong enough candidates that don’t need to fear third-party competition.

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                  They can focus on both at the same time.

                  In an election, every little advantage counts for the same reason that every vote counts.

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                    Maybe the margins wouldn’t be so thin if they had strong enough candidates though. Many people, myself included, vote based on who best matches our values.

                    And for me, and many others, that’s a third party.