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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
not only are the DCs burning water and harming ears, we’re on to the stage of taiwan not farming rice in service of making more chips
She shows us one of her rice paddies. It used to hold enough water to raise ducks. Now it’s nothing but cracked earth and a few crispy flowers.
I’m neither a climate nor agriculture scientist so I can’t guess the longer term impact of this; I immediately wonder whether the soil could get harmed by disuse over years, along with other warming-related problems
I’m too angry to even sneer properly at this. it’s so fucking obviously nuts, but perverse incentives roll right ahead unchecked.
I think some people are from hell
Here is the worst thing I didn’t have to read today from a transhumanist:
Yes but laws are often outpaced, presumably having your dog walk in and say he liked it is a pretty good reason to have your bestiality charge thrown out and perhaps move on to the discrimination countersuit.
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Also this may have historic reasons, as the first futa was drawn centuries ago, long before the technology that enabled transgenderism, with breasts being the key difference.
Bonus round:
spoiler
What percentage of homeless people do you think would be worthwhile having as slaves? Many of them are broken people who can’t reasonably support themselves in their current state, nor do anything to fix it.
This is vaguely similar to my idea for how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant. Then you build a prison there, and everyone guilty of a ‘crime of homelessness’ such as trespassing, illegal camping, stealing food, etc. Then they get put in jail for a few days, probably put through some level of rehab, given basic medical care, and eventually a job for the massive debt they’ve just wracked up. What work it would be is the hard question, but the benefits to everyone else would pay for them to dig holes to fill back in if needed. Maybe have them sort recycling or something.
how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant
Okay, I mean, there’s no indication as to how you’d achieve this, but yes, community help and cheap rent are absolutely a good ideal to aim at…
Then you build a prison there.
Aaaand you’re a cartoon villain. What the absolute fuck.
just want to make sure this is on the record
those suggestions (from the deranged OP) are basically segregationist: “you take all the poor, you give them their own little world [and then they’re no longer here, where we have to look at them]”. there’s a long track record of awful enterprises that have been done with that spirit. they carry names like Apartheid, ghetto, etc.
(there are occasionally serious well-meaning suggestions on how to provision for the poor and unfortunate in ways that allow improving lives, but those don’t tend to handwave the details, and never (afaict) involve the “make them go over there” step)
Holy shit every one of those was like getting ounched in the head from a completely random direction
i’ve seen some of these takes coming from libertarians, but never from a single person
This is the kind of take a libertarian makes, and then goes ‘well nobody debates me on this so my logic is solid’. While he isn’t noticing that people are just avoiding the conversation all together, as nobody wants to roll in that mud with him.
The UR example of these kinds of bad takes is the book “Defending the Undefendable”, a dumb book I have ranted about before.
certified awful content, don't open if you like dogs
So in addition to normal libertarian drivel like daydreaming about being a slaveowner or such, this reminds me of an incident when certain libertarian org found that they have an actual dogfucker in their ranks (kompromat in polish) https://web.archive.org/web/20161206144701/https://www.wykop.pl/wpis/20957439/mirki-neuropa-moze-was-to-zainteresuje-na-zdjeciu-/
so that “what if dog consents tho” is not exactly a hypothetical question
robin hanson blogging about his activities on a typical monday
Catching up on SMBC and finding a quality sneer I’m a little bit surprised I didn’t find here sooner.
https://bsky.app/profile/jonpennington.bsky.social/post/3kxqkmezcwe2o
I went to college with him. Yarvin is curdled nerd rage personified. He also lies about his age. He’s older than me & claims a birth date that would make him younger than me.
I was on a Quiz Bowl team with him & whenever he would buzz in for an answer, he would jerk his body spasmodically, which the other people on the team called “Yarvinating.”
He’s the kind of player that other Quiz Bowl players hate, known in the subculture as a “pickoff lord.” That is to say, he’s the kind of guy who would pad his stats by diving in to buzz on easy questions, make wild guesses on intros so he could get more points than teammates, etc.
Hand to God. If anybody disputes me, I’ve got at least one other person who would remember the “Yarvinating” anecdote. I’ve got legit Quiz Bowl cred. I used to play against Ken Jennings before he was even a Jeopardy! contestant, let alone host.
I connected on Facebook with a former classmate, somebody else from that team who once appeared in a College Jeopardy! tournament. We’re both kind of just gobsmacked that we were there for somebody else’s Lex Luthor origin story.
Another bit of tea… He lies about his age. He was an upperclassman at Brown when I was a freshman & he claims to be younger than me.
see also https://www.qbwiki.com/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
Yarvin played on the College Bowl-only team for Brown from 1989 to 1992. In 2021 he published a poem[2] stating that “No one can fucking touch me / In College Bowl.” Brown failed to advance out of the Region 1 tournament for all four years of Yarvin’s participation, making his lifetime record at intercollegiate tournaments 0-4 and demonstrating that, at a minimum, the Brandeis, MIT, and Williams teams were capable of “touching” his performance.
I’d never looked into how old the clown is, but
He also lies about his age. He’s older than me & claims a birth date that would make him younger than me.
wait what? what does he claim? is the indicated year on wikipedia accurate? why the hell?
wikipedia date is 25 June 1973, presumably that’s the false one
huh, just showed year here. did you get that from talk?
He also lies about his age.
I also knew somebody who did that, but it was done as a joke, he obv picked an age much much younger and everybody new he was older, it was just a funny joke. (With a small layer of disliking getting older, which is understandable) From the way this is written, it seems to me this isn’t like that at all.
I like answering ludicrously old whenever this stupid shit comes up
or picking timestamps that make devs wonder whether they had a value handling bug (such as 1/1/1970, the asp.net default 0, etc ec)
Just be careful you never pick very young. iirc Twitter permbans you if you ever pick a date which means you were under 13 when you registered.
I’m 12 years old and what is this?
Don’t worry if you get banned just tell them you were banned for expressing your conservative ideas.
I’ve only been on the internet a year, that mistake will happen quite soon ;)
A funny coincidence: https://gameshows.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Warren Another guy named Curtis that buzzes in early at game shows. And he’s from CATHEDRAL City. It’s all connected
so what rhymes with Proton getting into AI grifting? you fucking guessed it
we still keep a proportion of Proton’s financial reserves in Bitcoin.
further down the page
Proton is not a crypto company. We do not speculate in crypto
so I’ve accidentally been paying shitheads who speculate on crypto to speculate on crypto. I’m kinda angry at myself for not catching this.
so what rhymes with Proton getting into AI grifting?
Thanks, I hate it
The fuck is happening over there?
I could have “excused” the AI bullshit as “we did it to appease the corporate customers who make us money” but there’s no way you can spin this.
I’m canceling my account. At this point I might just say fuck it and use my Yahoo mail for everything again.
(And this time the Reddit thread is the dumpster fire I’ve been expecting the last one to be lol)
Can’t blame this shit on the survey!
I checked, crypto shit was not in any of the top 8 results (top 5 broken out, and they mentioned 3 more, which are surely #6 through #8).
I’m sorry, what’s a 1-2-punch, idgi 🤔🤔🤔
(big fat fucking /s ofc)
the wife sent this one to me
what can I say he cooked
That’s how he suckers you in!
buddy slept through ww1+2 (it fits because brits called germans huns in their propaganda), also, roughly 5% of world population
From a piece by Scott Alexander, I think.
oh no i just learned something new about my wife
Most women think about steppe nomads at least once a day.
I’ll allow it
Study shock! AI hinders productivity and makes working worse [Thomas Claburn, The Register]
Personal opinion: c’mon bubble
Bosses are urging employees to increase their output with the help of AI tools (37 percent), to expand their skill sets (35 percent), take on a wide range of responsibilities (30 percent), return to the office (27 percent), work more efficiently (26 percent), and work more hours (20 percent).
Stop working from home because AI.
It’s my strong belief that rats only like analytic philosophy because of the word “analytic” in the title. If there were some other broad category of philosophy with a name more synonymous with “rational” they’d be all over it.
“Boolean psychology”
“Mathematical psychology”
the birth of a cursed phrase
You would expect some actual bayesian analysis in a stats-heavy field like psych, though.
I assume it would be more vibes-based Bayes.
Japan supermarket chain uses AI to gauge staff smiles, speech tones in quality service push (South China Morning Post).
Called “Mr Smile”, it was developed by the Japanese technology company InstaVR and is said to be able to accurately rate a shop assistant’s service attitude.
It has also been designed with “game” elements that invite staff to improve their attitude by challenging their scores.
The company said its goal was to “standardise staff members’ smiles and satisfy customers to the maximum”.
Thanks I hate it
Press release here: https://www.aeonretail.jp/pdf/240701R_1.pdf or here: https://www.instavr.co.jp/news/aeon-retail-smile-2024-07-01/ (Lots of big words so I didn’t try to read it)
InstaVR’s English website here: https://www.instavr.co/
What if instead of making robots better we just made interacting with a real person indistinguishable by demanding they conform to arbitrary metrics that the brain-slugs that control our minds think look like genuine human warmth and kindness?
standardise staff members’ smiles
Completely normal and chill thing to want
Previous workplace merged with a US company that among other things offered “sentiment analysis” for call centers - the software was supposed to detect if someone was upset or irate. Could be used to help employees deal with irate customers, but could also detect if an employee was rude or stressed. Same software could be used to ensure employees used certain stock phrases like “welcome to InitTech, how may I help you?”
Point is, tech has been used to enforce conformity since well forever.
Eurgh!
@cstross
Looks like someone took the wrong lesson from Quantum of Nightmares!
Edit: Enjoyed the book, btw. Felt weird about shopping for groceries for most of a year afterward. A++
https://xcancel.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1816925777377788295#m
Yud requires calories for his massive brain.
Don’t forget the chaser!
Ah, by “chaser”, you mean “emetic”
An olive oil chaser - classic.
The reactions to that are also quite something, not only does Musk bring out the worst people (bluechecks, all even less informed than him, or worse just people wanting to spread crypto/insult fat people/took over the weird posting style from Jordan B Peterson (the one with all the linebreaks at strange places, Musk also did it once in the same period he did the interview), but Yudkowsky reacted with a very gentle [citation needed], while we all know the truth.
https://xcancel.com/mitchandodger/status/1816936244892565939#m
asking the important questions
Unfortunately the Joe Rogan case study shows that the answer is probably quite a bit more.
Looks like he’s in the process of killing himself
And he insists exercise doesn’t help him lose weight which means it doesn’t have any benefit.
Poor fuck’s going to get done in by vanity.
I can’t really feel sorry for him but this is somehow still depressing
For the people not in the know 500kcal a day is very unwise. Not only very unhealthy, also a sign of looking for a quick fix mindset, which is not a thing that works well for long term weightloss.
Yeah, and he does this one in every two months (+ 1 bonus week of fasting because water weight because the only thing he’s interested in is number go down).
Mein gott
Oh man I need to up my caloric intake (ozempic makes this really hard).
Try not to go under 1000kcal (and even that is a bit low and prob unhealthy on the long term, assuming somewhat average male height, a middle age, and computertoucher lifestyle).
Isn’t this what happened to that creepy bloke on Tumblr. Maybe all rationalist-adjacent bloggers eventually shit themselves to death after trying to fix their health problems with punishing exercise regimes and dodgy supplements.
which one?
huh, this was last August
Yeah, I’d seen one or two of his popular posts but I only became familiar with him and his whole deal after he died.
Maintaining my weight still requires fasting 1 month for every 2 months that I eat enough for my brain to work.
… his brain works?
Objection! Facts not in evidence!
more on the nsfw side but this is a kinda interesting finding/use of existing tech
niche because only some types of slop, but still!
Crowdstrike offers 10 USD gift cards as apology.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/24/crowdstrike-offers-a-10-apology-gift-card-to-say-sorry-for-outage/
Those that try to use them find out that Crowdstrike can’t even buy gift cards at scale.
it’s going well:
Real “Scott’s Tots” energy
No idea how true it is but apparently crowdstrike fired some of their QA and replaced it with AI, anybody heard about this? (source bsky) (Also ‘AI’ is doing a lot of work here, that could be anything)
I am attempting to track down this precise story.
- They are gung ho on AI
- They laid off a pile of their QA
- They have a “virtual security analyst” which is an LLM
iirc Crowdstrike does use regular ML for security, or at least a lot of security companies, I think they might have talked about it on the risky business podcast, so you might want to look at their (many iirc) crowdstrike sponsored parts. No episode directly springs to mind however.
This can also be an area where ML is an appropriate and useful tool. You’ll see it used to establish a statistical baseline for what traffic should look like and then it can flag when it detects something that doesn’t match that as suspicious and worth further investigation. In this space there is actually a lot of value in some of the statistical modeling techniques, though generative AI is obviously a very different and less useful beast.
Yes indeed. Which is iirc what people talked about re ML before the current hype cycle started.
Whatever shambling corpse of Toys “R” Us still exists has released “the first OpenAI SORA generated brand commercial.”
It looks absolutely dire, particularly in motion, but posters are still falling over themselves to call it “cool” and “exciting” or claim that people “might not notice” that it’s complete and utter arse.
That picture… Harry Potter and the Hole of Ketamine.
Oh my fucking god I know that video
this is the entire pitch of genAI, this is beat for beat a perfect analysis 4 years before all of this bullshit actually happened
“Positive is that if you didn’t tell someone it was GenAI, they might not notice!”
Nah, they’d be able to immediately tell from just how fucking garbage it is
It makes me wonder if these people have ever seen a moving picture before, because being caught up in the slack-jawed astonishment of a novel experience seems the only plausible explanation for thinking this looks good.
Has someone tried generating a train running at the camera and seeing if one of the AI bros dies of a heart attack?
I see Sora still hasn’t cracked the nut of having longer output windows. or at producing things that aren’t deathly boring.
and what the fuck is up with that music? it sounds like a medical commercial selling hope
AI or not this is an incredibly depressing advert, what the fuck. They went for whimsy and produced an elegy.
the thing is, people are again taking this as direct output of the regurgitating machine. i wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was a ton of editing going on to fix all of the most glaring issues, just like when sora was first announced.
Yes you can very clearly see what they’ve added in, there’s tons of matte stuff going on and cliparts of floating toys and whatever
If you look at the bottom right that’s exactly the case. They didn’t just type a prompt in SORA and call it a day.
https://xcancel.com/jrawson/status/1814232925967089808
The fuck.
Reposting this from the last Stubsack here by request.
love is love ✌️❤️
Amazing how many of them eventually morph into somebody else. Trained on celeb faces, and still cannot keep a consistent facial shape. One more dataset bro.
One, this looks like absolute dogshit. Two, this looks like an ad campaign for a celebrity cloning service for spare organs. Three, with the music it sounds like a drug ad in the US. It just needs a voiceover telling you the monkey paw side effect you’ll inflict upon yourself in return for eternal youth.
Three, with the music it sounds like a drug ad in the US
as I remarked to a friend elsewhere, there’s something I’ve noticed in a couple of these things now, and that’s how “cutesy” they’re made to be
this one for example: it’s so clearly intended to be as unnatural as possible (based on the pairings presented), while trying to sell it as cozy as possible - all the gestures/poses, the music, the lighting, the clothing, the who’s-picked-for-portrayal
obviously there’s going to be some kind of observation bias etc involved here (of however many of these things get created, only some with some x property end up crossing my feed/radar somehow) but still. it doesn’t even have artistic shock dimensions value - it’s just creepycopy.
which has led me to wonder: what is it about genml tech specifically that makes this kind of bullshit the thing produced so frequently?
One answer perhaps would be that anyone who thinks AI art is good probably lacks the taste to appreciate anything beyond the generic, and the discernment to tell that it is submerged in the depths of uncanny valley. So you have a bunch of AI chuds sharing this creep shit without realising it’s creepy and that it looks terrible.
Lol at trump in golden thigh high shoes btw. Somebody needs to bonk the datasets a bit. (E: Im joking here, nothing wrong with a horny dataset).
Yeah also people that like AI are already willing to overlook its ethical issues, which parlays into obliviousness about why it’s all so fucking creepy. Again, musk.
One answer perhaps would be that anyone who thinks AI art is good probably lacks the taste to appreciate anything beyond the generic, and the discernment to tell that it is submerged in the depths of uncanny valley.
Very true - arguably truer today than it was earlier, if DALL-E’s declining quality is any indication.
DALL-E 2 had some degree of artistic talent (in the loosest sense), but because DALL-E was made and run by creatively sterile techbros without a shred of art skill, that talent was drowned very fucking quickly.
