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    4 months ago

    Imagine if Biden with his newfound immunity decomissions the entire Supreme Court and raids it with military force just for the sake of tragic irony

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      Everyone seems to be missing the “in an official capacity” clause of the ruling. That is intended to force each of these cases to the supreme court, allowing them to rule what is and isn’t official capacity. Meaning, they can simply rule that Biden didn’t act in an official capacity and is not immune. The ruling is even more sinister than it seems on the surface.

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        He can make it official. He can make it as official as it gets. He can literally publicly sign this, in his office, with the press. Just because the constitution doesn’t explicitly say he can do it doesn’t mean it’s unofficial. The constitution barely mentions what authorities the president does and doesn’t have in the first place.

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        Its going to be hard to rule against the president after you been killed by the president.

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        Obviously this will never happen, but good luck ruling that Biden did not act “in an official capacity” when he ordered their murder, after it has actually been enacted. I guess their replacements could do it but that won’t resuscitate their predecessors.

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        The decision specifically states any action involving “core responsibilities” is an official action and grants immunity. One of the core responsibilities of the president is commanding the armed forces. So by their decision any order given to the armed forces comes with immunity by default.

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      Immunity != authority.

      Biden doesn’t have additional powers because of the ruling. Just can’t be prosecuted for crimes.

      Immunity only benefits criminal Presidents like Trump.

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        The problem with that thinking is the President is the Commander-in-Chief. He can tell the military to do anything, and anything he tells them to do is protected, because that power is EXPLICITLY written out in the Constitution, and thus is an official act.

        Additionally, he could just hire literal hitmen and pardon them of any crimes. Official act. Fucking brownshirts are gonna be back.

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          The hiring hitmen would probably not be an official act though. That’s why you use the military and pardon them of any charges.

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            You’re right, just start a new branch of the military and just call it the Freedom Squad, and their whole goal is assassinating anyone you deem the deep state.

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      Except when the terms of what an official act is not defined, the Supreme Court gets to decide, after the fact.

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        I’ve been thinking about this a bit, I’m not sure it’s been considered and I may be going out on a random tangent…

        Isn’t this whole ‘immunity’ decision just another power grab, or rather further cementing of their power, by SCOTUS? Think about it. They’re essentially the arbiter of ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ now, as there’s no further avenue of appeal save for amending the U.S. Constitution.

        Put aside the vagueness of ‘official’ vs. ‘unofficial’ acts for a moment.

        • Trump did something definitely illegal, and Trump argues was ‘official’, like his classified records case. Immune.

        • Biden did something questionably legal yet unofficial, such as forgetfully retaining classified documents after his tenure as VP (which he immediately returned). Supreme Court decides ‘not immune’, and some idiot decides to prosecute.

        Trump might end up as a king, but the conservative majority of SCOTUS are the kingmakers and protectors.

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        Eh. Not if Biden just says “no. Fuck you. That was an official act.” And then just categorically ignore the court. Which is precisely what Trump would do if presented with a mirrored version of the situation.

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        So he can limit the scope of what the next president can do simply by using the power he’s been given.

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          Nope because he can’t interpret nor create laws. Just break them. The next president is free to do as they wish.

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            And if he breaks them, the Supreme Court will rule that the president can’t do whatever it is that Biden did. Assuming whatever Biden did doesn’t result in the court having a different makeup.

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    Does anyone else just not bother reading articles when they see it’s from The Daily Beast? I just don’t have the energy to deal with their paywall.

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    Fortunately diet and lifestyle means you won’t have to put up with it for long…

    Reckon both these guys will be in the ground before the next election cycle comes around.

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      Trump is a foot in the door, there are some scary and actually intelligent people behind the scenes.

      We’re in a frogs in the pot situation.

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    It’s going to be crazy when Trump gets elected, is unable to pass laws due to a stalemate in congress and then is replaced by an idiot genx/millenial four years later.

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      I hope you’re right, but I don’t think you are.

      I don’t expect to have meaningful or fair elections for the foreseeable future if the fascists win in November, to the point that I have contingency plans for various scenarios in that domain.

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      Naw it’s okay bro, he can just sign an executive order saying the law is passed. Official Act baby!

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        Sure but then the next President can repeal it. This happens now.