• Daniel Quinn@lemmy.ca
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    “The Conservative Party has no real solutions for the affordability crisis”

    … sure maybe, but do the Liberals? They’ve had a long time to fix things. Maybe it’s time we start electing someone other than the two parties that brought us here.

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      The Liberal solution is to maximize the return on investment for real estate speculators, thus transferring as much wealth as possible from the poor to the ruling class. That’s literally the whole reason the Canadian government was created by corporations and foreign rulers in the first place.

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        1 year ago

        Conversely the CPC solution is the exact same thing, but favouring a different set of cronies.

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    1 year ago

    If the Canadian conservative party is anything like the American conservative party then they don’t have a plan for…anything.

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      That is objectively not true. They have a plan to weaken the rights of the marginalized and to enrich themselves and their cronies. C’mon now >_>

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    1 year ago

    The fact that this post title could fit so perfectly into UK politics also probably speaks volumes.

    So much so that upon first glance I just assumed this was in the UK politics community.

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    People keep saying this but it rings hollow to me. There are plenty of ways to attack the CPC, but this meme is not one of them.

    Poilievre has specific plans on how to force cities to get more housing built. Now, obviously, if you don’t believe in market solutions this sounds dumb, but most people with even the most basic, minimal centrist respect for economics will believe that more housing will help with prices.

    So if you keep saying “he has no plan”, what those voters hear is “leftist media is lying about Poilievre”.

    The LPC could very easily disarm him on this one issue: steal his plan and implement it. Bring out the stick. Start threatening cities that do not greenlight enough housing with cuts to their gas-tax funds. Because while Poilievre’s policy is generally horrifying on a lot of fronts (LGBTQ issues, environment, poverty) his plan on this issue is better than anything anybody else has offered (to be fair, the bar is very low).

    Progressive YIMBY activists and affordable-housing builders have been saying for decades: slow-walking approvals and restrictive zoning are driving up the costs of urban housing. Thid is a spot where PP is on the same side of the issue as Alexandria freaking Ocasio Cortez!

    Yes, there are many publicly-funded ways we should also be fighting the housing crisis, things that PP is not going to do. But on this one specific issue: PP is talking sense, you look stupid to swing voters when you say he isn’t, and you can disarm him by just stealing the idea wholesale. It works against the NDP every time, just do it here to the Conservatives.

    edit: I just took another look and realized that TFA was written by Nora Loreto. Now it all adds up. The woman is a troll. People just get confused because this style of political trolling is almost exclusively conservative chuds, so seeing this kind of over-the-top hot-take nonsense is unfamiliar when it comes from this side of the aisle.

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        Well, in the case of “reward cities for fixing their processes” actually that’s literally the Housing Generator Fund, which Hussen touted so much as the thing that would fix housing that he completely destroyed its utility as something they could celebrate. The entire media circuit started rolling their eyes at “housing generator fund”. Beyond policy problems, the man had buffoonish political instincts.

        But one thing that Poilievre’s vicious political style works with here is that he wants sticks, not just carrots.

        Municipal governments deserve that stick.

  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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    That’s because real solutions would destroy the value of all current homes. Given that most people are still homeowners, that’s not a winning political strategy.

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      Rendering that home you bought back down to even double the inflation-adjusted price - so no loss at all - would be even more than we need, but thank you for suggesting we reduce it even more out of the goodness of your heart.

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          You’ll still have a home, and presumably still be able to afford the payments. Fuck the loss, and let other people get a chance to actually have a place to live.

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            Yup, fuck me for working my young ass off to get a place when they’re so expensive, and continue to fuck me for another 20 years to pay for the $700,000 remaining on my mortgage because I wanted to have space for my kids.

            At that point I’d be better off abandoning Canada to get rid of the debt load.

            That screws the people who benefitted least, and barely touches the people who benefitted most.

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              You think everyone else who is stuck renting and desperately wants a house isn’t working their asses off?

              And no, you’re not fucked, you still have a place to live with your family, and you clearly can afford it regardless of if the sale price eventually drops. And it doesn’t matter if it drops because once you sell it whatever place you move to will also have dropped in price.

              Stop trying to fuck others with this fuck you I got mine attitude. I will be ecstatic if my condo halves in value, because it means my friends may actually be able to afford a place to live themselves, and it doesn’t hurt me.

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                You clearly don’t understand how economics works.

                I don’t have shit right now except a massive debt.

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      Thanks for “both sides”-ing this one, Mr Trump…

      But if you look closer you will find nuance in the history of each group that may show you a difference, if you want.

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      You know, I heard the same thing for decades in the US. Then one party removed a woman’s right to choose and gay marriage is signaled to be next. You’re headed down the same road we are if you aren’t careful.

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        OTOH it is the LPC that has lead us straight into this housing crisis. Social conservativism provides the boogie man that neo liberals use to financially exploit us into working in poverty at their shitty dead end jobs the rest of our lives. They’re two sides of the same exploitive coin. They run back and forth over the same 50m of ground and both pretend like they are making progress, but neither of them really want to upset the status quo. Watch as the American Democrats fight tooth an nail to bring back abortion and protect gay marriage, and never speak a word about guaranteed income or free education. Only to let the GOP tear it back down again a few years after that. It’s a scam.