• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    If you’re eating meat, then you’re contributing to the death of all of those plants that had to feed the animals you’re eating

    impossible. an event in the future cannot cause an event in the past.

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      “Yes, your honor, he did kill my wife and I did give him money. However, I gave him the money afterwards, and effects cannot occur before causes, so there’s no possible connection.”

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        surely you can see that there are going to need be more evidence. some kind of communication prior to the fact is probably going to need to be established.

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          It’s called supply and demand. They know there is a demand for meat so they grow animals and feed those animals plants. Continuing to eat meat supports a system that consumes more plants than a system where humans only eat plants. You shouldn’t need your hand held for this, it’s pretty basic stuff.

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            supply and demand.

            that’s a theory about price discovery that actually has no predictive value. it is not a magic phrase that traverses space-time

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              Okay so you are responsible for the next dead cow that the company has to produce now to replace the one you bought.

              Your action led to a dead cow in the future.

              Does that work?

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                the company has to produce now to replace the one you bought.

                no, they don’t. they could choose not to do that. I am not responsible for their choices.

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                Your action led to a dead cow in the future.

                Does that work?

                no, that’s not causal. but even if it were, it doesn’t make me responsible for the killing of the plants or animals in the past.

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            You shouldn’t need your hand held for this, it’s pretty basic stuff.

            this is just posturing. it doesn’t support your (erroneous) claim, nor does it undermine my (obviously correct) position.

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      When you eat animals you give the market a financial incentive to breed and slaughter more animals, who inevitably have to eat a bunch of plants to grow. It’s not that you eating a burger kills a cow, but you eating a burger helps make it financially sound and socially acceptable to murder cows for burgers.