I don’t like to see so many political posts in all and so many weird images in comment sections
What in the world have I woken up into…
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don’t understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.
Edit: I just saw a Hexbear comment on another thread posting that China doesn’t ban Winnie the Pooh because Disney is able to exist. Well, no shit. It’s in the context of Disney. Put that phrase in any other thread on their platform (preferably political) and see what happens, then can you claim that the CCP doesn’t ban the word Xi the Pooh.
Watch out, you’re Taiwanese so you don’t exist to those racism fighters 👍
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How dare you not let the, probably also white, tankies decide what is and is not racist towards you. /s i hope they all kick rocks
Yeah as far as I know the Winnie the Pooh thing originated in the PRC. Apparently Xi is really upset about it and did a hard ban on it. But it’s kinda a Streisand effect kind of thing so places outside of the CCP’s control kinda ran with it.
But the hexbears are just conditioned to say it’s racist to try to shut down any conversation about it. I mean it’s their tyrant using censorship for an extremely petty reason. I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself if it weren’t for the fact that this tyrant is so butthurt and petty about it. And that’s what makes it hilarious. And fuck that guy.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos.
Yeah the whole cultural appropriation thing is weird. Sure it’s wrong to trivialize something that holds a lot cultural or religious significance to others. But people generally like seeing others participate in their culture, and they’ll let you know when something is sacred and not for a casual tourist to participate in.
When I went to Peru I bought a shirt from a tourist shop that was the local style. Everyone seemed happy to see that. One older woman said she was happy to see a westerner wearing the local style and invited me to a wedding. Approval all around… except for one guy that said I probably shouldn’t be wearing that shirt. It was a white guy from the UK (judging from the accent).
And the kimono thing is really weird. When I was in Kyoto, anyone could dress up as a samurai or a geisha. Not only was it acceptable, the shops would give discounts to people dressed up this way. Because it made things more fun. This may be shocking to some people, but cosplay is fairly popular in Japan. I also saw some dudes in a park cosplaying as American 1950s geasers. Was I offended by this because they were appropriating our culture? Of course not, they seemed to be having fun and nobody dresses that way anymore anyway.
The idea of a blanket stigmatizing of western people having any participation in other cultures seems like it’ll be a problem long term. If it’s ok for everyone in the world to adopt western culture, but not ok for westerners to adopt anything from anyone else’s culture, then western culture spreads and other cultures don’t. Seems to me like what happens with colonialism, but this time with good intentions! But intentions doesn’t change the result. And if the result is the spread of western culture while preventing the spread of other cultures, seems like a bad result to me.
I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself
If I were a head of state, on a suitable occasion I’d absolutely make sure that the state present is a selection of the finest local honeys. Also some mead for completeness’ sake. Let their diplomatic corps bend over backwards attempting to not insult such a fine offering of friendship.
EDIT: Oh. This episode of Yes, Prime Minister.
It’s called Whitesplaining and it’s actually in the dictionary.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whitesplain
“(of a white person) to comment on the minority experience or explain racism to a person of color in a condescending or blaming way…”
I think it’s a key giveaway that someone is a narcissist.
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嗨，難得可以在 Lemmy 上遇到台灣人。相信我，我懂你的心情。我前幾天也被六熊們搞得很煩。什麼新疆人過得很好、習維尼迷因是種族歧視、台灣是中共領土等巴拉巴拉的。
我家外面風好大，雨也好大，你那邊呢？
Don’t listen to hexbear users when they say they “defend themselves” from homophobia and transphobia. One user thought the admin of Blahaj.zone was being transphobic for not allowing politics in every community. Hexbear users will literally just lie about the repamant amount of homophobia and transphobia to justify their existence here.
Mind that the two admins of Blahaj.zone are trans women, which makes it extra ridiculous.
That whole thing was a shit show and I somehow was able to stumble across each and every single part of it as it happened.
It all happened merely days after hexbear said Blahaj was somehow not safe for their LGBT members, so then having those new accounts pull this was so obvious as where could the users came from.
Hexbear was/is a shit show. Then again, I hate politics and idiots with a burning passion. (Grew up in the South with Far right idiots belching brain dead arguments) It’s very hostile. I was semi-fine with hostility on Reddit, I’d happily bite and fight. But, I’m honestly trying to have a good experience, so Hexbear is a no-go for me.
And for the inevitable herd of Hexbearians that will no doubt squawk this post to hell: I am a nonbinary, demisexual, melungeon witch, I can’t stand racists or bigots or *phobes, I don’t care for politics or politicians, but will happily vote for whoever doesn’t try to make my existence illegal!
Umm… They lie about everything actually.
Hexbear: why do so many people want to degenerate with us
Also hexbear: Spams every complaint in other instances with unrelated images
They are so eager to prove themselves the assholes that people accuse them of being, and then they whine and cry about instances defederating from them.
I’m pretty sure the whole thing is a false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse. It seems a lot like a blend of bad leftist parody, and edgy 14-year-olds who fell for it
Sounds like r/chapotraphouse in a nutshell.
Also, I think TheDude was underselling why they were originally banned on Reddit. They were the left-wing version of r/TheDonald. The reason he listed was just the excuse Reddit used to justify kicking them off the platform
This exactly. I swear the entire point is to discredit and divide. The FBI couldn’t do a better job if they tried. What I’ve been finding really interesting is the stress they put on being “anti-racist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, anti-fascist, etc”. If you were really those things you would most definitely not need to shoehorn that into EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. “hey it’s a nice day outside, I’m anti-racist anti homophobic anti trans anti fascist btw” Mind you on reddit when chapotraphouse was popular there were a lot of them talking about how they HATE identity politics and basically dismissing anything to do with race. So the pronouns in the names, the constant non sequitors about how they’re actually “more anti-racist and anti-homophobic” than you, etc. It feels like it might just be really deep irony and they’re just memeing it.
I mistakenly assumed that they would be more similar to chapotraphouse, but now I see that the 3 year exile has stripped away many of the reasonable people. I still hope some of these users will snap out of it and realize they are acting obnoxiously and unproductively, but the chances of that happening seem slim at this point.
CTH was aggressively leftist but it was actually funny and self aware. Hexbear seems to have forgotten how to interact with ordinary people.
I mean, I like aggressively leftist and most of lemmy that I’ve experienced feels that way. This hexbear shit feels like anti-leftist agitation though. It fucking stinks of feds. If not at the beginning, they’re certainly there now
So, the primary reason that happens, and the primary reason I’d vote defederation on them every time, is because their instance has down votes disabled for some forsaken reason. It’s not 100% the users fault, it’s because a comment is the only mode of response they have available for something they don’t agree with. So a negative image macro is their downvote. Due to this, they end up flooding other instances threads and only see a bunch of people who agree with the op of a thread or a post, which of course makes them feel like they need to show their displeasure way what’s been posted. Meanwhile we can see the 500 to 9.2k ratio on the racist hot take.
The way our instances are run is just fundamentally incompatible.
Don’t forget the 5-10% of them who aggressively insult OP and anyone else commenting in the thread.
I made a post like this on my old instance’s main community and it got flooded by 400+ hexbear comments telling me how stupid I am. No, the only real solution is to make a new account on an instance that’s defederated. Good luck.
What instances would you recommend? I don’t really want to leave mine since I’ve been on it for awhile but if it gets too annoying I might want to
If you don’t want to move instances, you can probably reduce 99% of annoying Hexbear shitposts by blocking just 3 communities:
They’re by far the noisiest, in my experience.
Blahaj.zone is defederated (hexbear did it first surprisingly). It’s a very LGBTQ+ oriented place so I’m not sure it’s your cup of tea
It seems like a very nice place, I’ll be sure to check it out some more
I find that interesting because i am banned from blahaj for being a conservative but hexbears swear im a white liberal. I would have thought hexbears and blahaj would get along nicely
When they call you a liberal, they’re referring to the classical meaning of the term rather than the newer definitions.
I think you’re giving them too much credit. They’re just trolling and being very annoying.
I don’t understand why blocking (or “defederating”) instances is such a core part of the design of lemmy but not actually supported on a per-user basis.
It is possible on kbin and also many lemmy apps.
Defederating is core to the fediverse. Lemmy just uses a shared protocol to exchange content. And as others have said, Kbin has instancr blocking, community/magazine blocking, and user blocking. You could just create an account on a Kbin instance if it’s important enough. You still get to see the same things.
Kbin has instance blocking, community/magazine blocking, and user blocking.
Kbin doesn’t have instance blocking yet, just domain blocking, which is for hiding posts that link to a particular domain. Domain blocking is also bugged right now, and will just hide random stuff from you.
I mean, if you want to get technical, none of them have any blocking really. Blocking on any fediverse is generally just the equivalent of muting/hiding.
Wasn’t aware of the bug though (as I haven’t tried the feature yet, but probably wouldn’t have a way to notice anyway).
I would love to block that trash completely. Every interaction I’ve had with any of them and their posts has just given me the impression they are just trolls and nothing else. If anyone truly thinks they are leftists, I question your definition of left. They can go and stay in their little instance and show all the bullshit and talk all the nonsense they want to.
any time i see a weird gif reaction i just block.
it gets repetitive, but that’s the way it is for now.
at some point i might just move away from shitjustworks to an instance that actually cares.
Yay, looks like they defederated again.
Theres no way yet, suposedly the devs are planing to give that option in the future.
Right now im just not loging into lemmy as much as before, the ambience became way more toxic than the first 2 or 3 months i started using it, and i believe its beacause of hexbearians. Lots of bad takes (pariculary genocide apologism) have been thriving on lemmy since they refederated, whuch was ussually trashed before, so i say they are behind that. And when they have more sane takes, they screw them up by telling you to go read Mao, seriously, Mr “Best politics are the ones that come from a barrel of gun” Mao. He was a fucking thug not a great mind of comunism.
I even re-made an account on reddit ffs, and reddit fucking sucks because my comments get ignored into oblivion no mather where i comment, and its not shadowbaning i think.
So my recomendation is try going somewhere else while the option of blocking instances becomes availabe or touch some grass, although grass sucks since it doesnt fight back when asked about politics and it becomes really old very quickly.
Why not join another instance that blocks hexbear? I mean that is the advantage of Lemmy, isn’t it
Because i like shit just works and i like that it isnt that heavy on defedration with other instances, but thats probably gonna change soon since it seems we are holding votes to defederate from hexbear.
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You can block instances if you use certain apps. I know connect allows you to block instances.
Reddit refugees on lemmy: it’s nice to be on a site that doesn’t have lots of power hungry mods arbitrarily banning people
Also reddit refugees on lemmy: BAN ALL THE INSTANCES THAT I DONT AGREE WITH POLITICALLY
People don’t want to block hexbear because they disagree with them, they want to block that instance because they often act like they’ve got the social skills of a neglected 5-year-old on meth. Further, because that’s who they’ve surrounded themselves with they have convinced themselves it’s normal or even appreciated.
