I’m finally back home and I’ve walked into a fucking shit show. There’s 5 cops out the front of my house, 3 staff from my organisation and my bedroom is 33°
Seriously, what the fuck.
(The new YP moved in on Thursday while I was away. I’d hazard a guess that’s why it’s a shitshow)
Update: I spoke with the program coordinator and it seems that this is just how lead tenant will be from now on. She said that PCU (the people who match kids to houses, essentially) has new leadership or something, and the new leader wants to shut down, or minimise the use of resi placements. Apparently she no longer gets to exercise as much discretion as she once could in which referrals are accepted. Apparently the new YP had been referred before but wasn’t accepted, but has been re-referred and the coordinator was pressured into accepting.
She also said that she thinks this new YP will be kicked out of the program eventually, but that she doesn’t get a say in the matter and knows the cost of that is likely that I won’t cope well. Those were her words.
Far out. Nooo. I’m so sorry you went from being sick on your trip to coming back to this guy…
Do you have a complaints process? From experience complaints tend to go into ‘the round file’ (ie. the bin) and I know this is a lot to put on you. But if you’re up to it try to put in complaints as often as you can for as long as you can stand getting the runaround.
Also whether you decide to complain or not (sometimes reporting leads to backlash) it it might be a smart move to buy a cheap A4 notebook and make a note of the times and dates of any incidents.
Guy swears at you or damages something or clogs the toilet? Write down a quick summary, time and date. Cops show up? What happened, time and date - plus cops names and their station if possible. Unnecessarily high bill from something he’s done? Time and date. Something of yours goes missing? You know what to do.
Documenting sucks and feels useless but it creates a paper trail demonstrating a pattern of behaviour that might get him kicked out sooner, lay the foundations for an IVO if one is ever needed (touch wood it isn’t), or may hopefully protect you from liability for something stupid he’s done. I am so sorry you’re having to deal with this especially at your young age.
Ps. Definitely get the lockable toolbox for out of sight under your bed and bike chain it to the frame. Grab yourself a lanyard to keep keys on you and lock your bedroom door even just to go to the toilet.
Also - you probably know this already, and may have already been doing this in the old place. But since this kid sounds like a problem it might be cautious to not leave your own personal toiletries in a shared bathroom in case they get used up, stolen or messed with. Maybe buy a wash bag or a beach bag to keep your own toiletries in, leave them in your room and carry to the bathroom as you need them.
A few generic “shared” things in the bathroom as window dressing are all I would leave out around a person like this. (A bare minimum amount of basic things you don’t care about like a cheap bottle of hand soap, a few homebrand bar soaps and the cheapest brand TP.)
It might be a good idea to close or block the duct in your room if possible (so the new kid can’t cook you alive), and use an electric blanket or space heater to set your own comfortable temperature.
Also it’s not a bad idea to keep snacks and water in your room, lock yourself in there especially when sus characters are around, pick up solitary hobbies or be away all the time, and if you can afford it take meals while you’re out.
Edit: Perhaps your hospo job allows free or discounted employee meals? So you can work all the time and eat cheaply while avoiding this dude and saving up an emergency fund. If he asks, you’re still broke. Invent a vague debt repayment that gets taken out of your bank account to explain where all your money is going, idk.
Grab your clothes as soon as they’re done washing. A clothes airer rack to dry your clothes in your room is invaluable.
Ps. Sorry if this sounds like a lecture. It really isn’t meant to be. I’ve just lived with and dealt with people like this. A lot.
Yeah, there is a complaint process (there’s several, actually). The program coordinator said she’s issued a 1st warning, but there’s a total of 3 warnings before there’s a strike. Any subsequent warnings automatically become a strike, and 3 strikes = being kicked out. If something like this happens again, I will complain. The program coordinator seems to think he’s probably going to be kicked out eventually, so that’s a nice sign…
Fortunately our bathrooms and toilets aren’t shared (seriously I went through almost 6 years of that, and never again.), so I don’t need to worry too much about toiletries going missing. Our utilities are included in our rent, and the bills don’t actually get sent here, they go straight to the head office. But I imagine if the 24/7 heating keeps happening, we’ll probably get a conversation about electricity usage.
Unfortunately I don’t think we can close the ducts we have in our rooms, they’re the older style 4 panel ones that are shaped like a cross and have 4 panels in each corner that can be adjusted to different directions that forms a square. Doing some Google, apparently they’re sometimes magnetic, and magnetic vent covers are a thing, but they look more plastic like to me, so it may be a case of needing to duct tape some cardboard to it. I actually did buy a heater from Kmart because my last one clogged up with dust and I couldn’t get it out without tearing it down, couriers please were meant to deliver it almost a week ago, but just kinda decided they didn’t want to. You probably know how they are.
I am actually considering buying a couple of appliances for my room. Kmart sell kettles and toasters for 7 bucks, and a 2nd hand bar fridge is only like $50 on gumtree or the marketplace, but I don’t know whether I should go to that extreme yet. It feels possibly overkill.
Theft and drug use wise, the program coordinator still hasn’t actually filled me in on the details and seems pretty set on keeping that a state secret. I found out through the lead tenant that moved out. Although it will probably affect me, she keeps talking about confidentiality. I can see that aspect, but it seems relevant and important for me to know what I need to expect, so I’m rather displeased about that
Mate, all I can say is you’re a far stronger person than I am - you are dealing with some of the shittiest living situations and still thinking through it logically despite being sick as well. It’s so shit that you had to come back to this. I apologise for not remembering, but when do you get to finally get to leave the system/age out? It’s within a year… I hope?? 😬
I turn 18 in March, but because of transitions and such, I can stay here until I’m 19 if it leads to a better outcome, which seems likely at the moment
Okay, at least you have some options. You seem optimistic that this new dropkick will be booted fairly soon but until he is it sounds like you have to go through more crap. I really wish you didn’t have to but you can always vent in the DT whenever you need to…
Thank goodness. But sus out how safe it’ll be to complain first. Sometimes it’ll get back to the idiot you’re dealing with and aggravate them, then you’re left with them taking it out on you.
Fortunately our bathrooms and toilets aren’t shared
That’s good, I was going to suggest a kettle for your room but thought that you’d have to keep refilling a container of water in the kitchen and it would raise questions. Bathroom sink might be an option if you’re desperate and it’s frequently disinfected?
Have a think about the bar fridge I guess. Extra fridges do consume extra electricity. But if utilities are being paid for, you have the money to buy it, it’ll make this crap time safer/more comfortable and your fridge space needs aren’t large… it might be good to have one already when you eventually move out on your own. That’s one less thing you have to buy immediately upon moving. It also means you could hold off on getting a full size fridge until you measure the dimensions in the new place. The one thing I’d consider though is if the energy efficiency might be bad or have become outdated by the time you leave. (Is that a thing?) Could just sell it on once you’re the utility account holder.
Edit: If you’re allowed to take home food from work/can get any cheap large meals that also provides somewhere to keep leftovers for the next day.
Yeah… confidentiality is important but some of these things you really would want to know upfront.
Yeah… It seems this may be the new normal. The cops are here for some shady characters the new kid decided to bring over who have warrants out for them. And I guess nobody’s told him why we don’t use the ducted yet
I’m really sorry for what you have to go through right now. I know a bit of what it’s like to have little to no control over your living situation, while others make all the decisions that affect you.
Best thing you can do is be polite so as not to give the wrong impression, but keep your boundaries as strong as you can.
Keep pressing whoever you have to, for some details as to what can be expected of this new person.
Hang in there. I know it’s hard to imagine sometimes, but things will get better.
That sounds like… fun. Keep your wits about you Baku, and stay safe. It’s shit that someone like that can threaten your home environment because those at the top have forgotten why they went into the sector to begin with.
I’m finally back home and I’ve walked into a fucking shit show. There’s 5 cops out the front of my house, 3 staff from my organisation and my bedroom is 33°
Seriously, what the fuck.
(The new YP moved in on Thursday while I was away. I’d hazard a guess that’s why it’s a shitshow)
Update: I spoke with the program coordinator and it seems that this is just how lead tenant will be from now on. She said that PCU (the people who match kids to houses, essentially) has new leadership or something, and the new leader wants to shut down, or minimise the use of resi placements. Apparently she no longer gets to exercise as much discretion as she once could in which referrals are accepted. Apparently the new YP had been referred before but wasn’t accepted, but has been re-referred and the coordinator was pressured into accepting.
She also said that she thinks this new YP will be kicked out of the program eventually, but that she doesn’t get a say in the matter and knows the cost of that is likely that I won’t cope well. Those were her words.
This is genuinely impressive considering how cold it is outside. Hope you get things under control and stay safe
Honestly… Yeah. That’s over double what it is outside! I’d guess it’s been on for days and he’s just had his door or window open
That’s a mindfuck when you’re already sick. “Am I feverish or is this room just on fire??”
Yeah. I was wondering if it was just a case of feeling warm after coming in from the cold or if I’d gotten a bad fever
Happy cake day! Wow, wonder what the heating bill is gonna be like lol
(Being pedantic) Also, temperature doesn’t “start” at 0°C, so it’s not “double” what it is outside. 0 C is still ~ 273 Kelvin.
Far out. Nooo. I’m so sorry you went from being sick on your trip to coming back to this guy…
Do you have a complaints process? From experience complaints tend to go into ‘the round file’ (ie. the bin) and I know this is a lot to put on you. But if you’re up to it try to put in complaints as often as you can for as long as you can stand getting the runaround.
Also whether you decide to complain or not (sometimes reporting leads to backlash) it it might be a smart move to buy a cheap A4 notebook and make a note of the times and dates of any incidents. Guy swears at you or damages something or clogs the toilet? Write down a quick summary, time and date. Cops show up? What happened, time and date - plus cops names and their station if possible. Unnecessarily high bill from something he’s done? Time and date. Something of yours goes missing? You know what to do.
Documenting sucks and feels useless but it creates a paper trail demonstrating a pattern of behaviour that might get him kicked out sooner, lay the foundations for an IVO if one is ever needed (touch wood it isn’t), or may hopefully protect you from liability for something stupid he’s done. I am so sorry you’re having to deal with this especially at your young age.
Ps. Definitely get the lockable toolbox for out of sight under your bed and bike chain it to the frame. Grab yourself a lanyard to keep keys on you and lock your bedroom door even just to go to the toilet.
Also - you probably know this already, and may have already been doing this in the old place. But since this kid sounds like a problem it might be cautious to not leave your own personal toiletries in a shared bathroom in case they get used up, stolen or messed with. Maybe buy a wash bag or a beach bag to keep your own toiletries in, leave them in your room and carry to the bathroom as you need them.
A few generic “shared” things in the bathroom as window dressing are all I would leave out around a person like this. (A bare minimum amount of basic things you don’t care about like a cheap bottle of hand soap, a few homebrand bar soaps and the cheapest brand TP.)
It might be a good idea to close or block the duct in your room if possible (so the new kid can’t cook you alive), and use an electric blanket or space heater to set your own comfortable temperature.
Also it’s not a bad idea to keep snacks and water in your room, lock yourself in there especially when sus characters are around, pick up solitary hobbies or be away all the time, and if you can afford it take meals while you’re out.
Edit: Perhaps your hospo job allows free or discounted employee meals? So you can work all the time and eat cheaply while avoiding this dude and saving up an emergency fund. If he asks, you’re still broke. Invent a vague debt repayment that gets taken out of your bank account to explain where all your money is going, idk.
Grab your clothes as soon as they’re done washing. A clothes airer rack to dry your clothes in your room is invaluable.
Ps. Sorry if this sounds like a lecture. It really isn’t meant to be. I’ve just lived with and dealt with people like this. A lot.
Yeah, there is a complaint process (there’s several, actually). The program coordinator said she’s issued a 1st warning, but there’s a total of 3 warnings before there’s a strike. Any subsequent warnings automatically become a strike, and 3 strikes = being kicked out. If something like this happens again, I will complain. The program coordinator seems to think he’s probably going to be kicked out eventually, so that’s a nice sign…
Fortunately our bathrooms and toilets aren’t shared (seriously I went through almost 6 years of that, and never again.), so I don’t need to worry too much about toiletries going missing. Our utilities are included in our rent, and the bills don’t actually get sent here, they go straight to the head office. But I imagine if the 24/7 heating keeps happening, we’ll probably get a conversation about electricity usage.
Unfortunately I don’t think we can close the ducts we have in our rooms, they’re the older style 4 panel ones that are shaped like a cross and have 4 panels in each corner that can be adjusted to different directions that forms a square. Doing some Google, apparently they’re sometimes magnetic, and magnetic vent covers are a thing, but they look more plastic like to me, so it may be a case of needing to duct tape some cardboard to it. I actually did buy a heater from Kmart because my last one clogged up with dust and I couldn’t get it out without tearing it down, couriers please were meant to deliver it almost a week ago, but just kinda decided they didn’t want to. You probably know how they are.
I am actually considering buying a couple of appliances for my room. Kmart sell kettles and toasters for 7 bucks, and a 2nd hand bar fridge is only like $50 on gumtree or the marketplace, but I don’t know whether I should go to that extreme yet. It feels possibly overkill.
Theft and drug use wise, the program coordinator still hasn’t actually filled me in on the details and seems pretty set on keeping that a state secret. I found out through the lead tenant that moved out. Although it will probably affect me, she keeps talking about confidentiality. I can see that aspect, but it seems relevant and important for me to know what I need to expect, so I’m rather displeased about that
Mate, all I can say is you’re a far stronger person than I am - you are dealing with some of the shittiest living situations and still thinking through it logically despite being sick as well. It’s so shit that you had to come back to this. I apologise for not remembering, but when do you get to finally get to leave the system/age out? It’s within a year… I hope?? 😬
I turn 18 in March, but because of transitions and such, I can stay here until I’m 19 if it leads to a better outcome, which seems likely at the moment
Okay, at least you have some options. You seem optimistic that this new dropkick will be booted fairly soon but until he is it sounds like you have to go through more crap. I really wish you didn’t have to but you can always vent in the DT whenever you need to…
Thank goodness. But sus out how safe it’ll be to complain first. Sometimes it’ll get back to the idiot you’re dealing with and aggravate them, then you’re left with them taking it out on you.
That’s good, I was going to suggest a kettle for your room but thought that you’d have to keep refilling a container of water in the kitchen and it would raise questions. Bathroom sink might be an option if you’re desperate and it’s frequently disinfected?
Have a think about the bar fridge I guess. Extra fridges do consume extra electricity. But if utilities are being paid for, you have the money to buy it, it’ll make this crap time safer/more comfortable and your fridge space needs aren’t large… it might be good to have one already when you eventually move out on your own. That’s one less thing you have to buy immediately upon moving. It also means you could hold off on getting a full size fridge until you measure the dimensions in the new place. The one thing I’d consider though is if the energy efficiency might be bad or have become outdated by the time you leave. (Is that a thing?) Could just sell it on once you’re the utility account holder.
Edit: If you’re allowed to take home food from work/can get any cheap large meals that also provides somewhere to keep leftovers for the next day.
Yeah… confidentiality is important but some of these things you really would want to know upfront.
What the!!! What a way to end a holiday. Probably a good thing you came back when you did. Not just because of being sickish.
Yeah… It seems this may be the new normal. The cops are here for some shady characters the new kid decided to bring over who have warrants out for them. And I guess nobody’s told him why we don’t use the ducted yet
I’m really sorry for what you have to go through right now. I know a bit of what it’s like to have little to no control over your living situation, while others make all the decisions that affect you.
Best thing you can do is be polite so as not to give the wrong impression, but keep your boundaries as strong as you can.
Keep pressing whoever you have to, for some details as to what can be expected of this new person.
Hang in there. I know it’s hard to imagine sometimes, but things will get better.
That sounds like… fun. Keep your wits about you Baku, and stay safe. It’s shit that someone like that can threaten your home environment because those at the top have forgotten why they went into the sector to begin with.