• Pratai@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    It’s not defeatism. It’s realism. Science supports what I’m saying. Deny it all you wish. The damage is irreparable.

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      1 year ago

      I did not claim, the damage was reparable. I said, it’s still going to get worse, if we don’t keep fighting. And there is no point in giving up, because even then, you’ll still be affected. Do it as revenge against fossil fuel companies, if that motivates you. But don’t just lower your hands for them to punch you in the gut.

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        In 20 years: +2°C is unavoidable, +3°C would require the whole world to reduce the emissions by as much as the covid crisis did… Each year.

        Even if the best political minds come to term with that and take actions, I don’t see us stopping. I don’t see us capping at 3, nor at 4. Nor at 6.

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          I’m not disagreeing with that. But I’d rather reach those +2°C in 20 years than in 10 years. Because even the current +1.5°C are already impacting my life quality.

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        It’s going to get worse, AS we keep fighting. Just like it has for the past several decades. Again, do you seriously think people have yet to start fighting this? You’re the first one to come up with the idea to do something?

        It’s over man. We never stood a chance. Just let it go and enjoy the rest of your life.

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          Again, I do not think that.

          I do not consider the rest of my life enjoyable, if it involves ever longer and hotter summers, with our life-supporting ecosystems collapsing one after another. Even if the end result is inevitable, I would prefer to delay all the shit before that, to keep it at least to a degree enjoyable for as long as possible.

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          Just let it go and enjoy the rest of your life.

          Nope. Not when my kids will have to try and survive in the shitshow they are being handed.

          It’s my responsibility to do as much as I am able to try and mitigate as much of the the damage as possible.

          For their sake, if not for the collective good.