• MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    Well damn. I mean going to $5k a month from nothing isn’t bad (especially in the middle of a pandemic) but those health issues are sure to put a damper on your spirits.

    Instead of laughing we should give him props for putting his money where is mouth was and hope that he at least managed to get his health back.

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      Once you’ve been rich, you get certain privileges that are difficult to remove from the equation entirely, like education, connections, and (at least generally speaking) health. You also get a lot of leeway by having a safety net to fall back on.

      But honestly, all that aside, big props to him for at least giving it a shot.

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        I Haven’t read about him…

        Did he admit defeat?

        Did he admit that being born into poverty vs wealth and wellbeing provide vastly different opportunity?

        Did he admit any use of said prior opportunity?

        Did he admit his weak will when he couldn’t go another measly 3 months to accomplish this one simple trick to stop being poor?

        Did he admit he couldn’t suffer through what millions do, what millions have to, what millions are forced to do, because of people with attitudes like him?

        Did he admit he’s a clown?

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          5 months ago

          There’s a bunch of videos in that article, so if you have the time to watch them, you’ll probably be able to answer most of these questions yourself.

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        5 months ago

        If he did give away all of his money then by definition he did not have a safety net to fall back on, no?

        Unless you mean being able to call on friends when in a bind. I must admit to not taking the time to watch all the videos, so I don’t know what rules he set himself for that, but I suppose it could also count, if it was allowed.

        But I mean, proving that theory was entirely the point, wasn’t it? He didn’t try making his first million from nothing, he already made it once and tried to repeat it. Of course he’d have some sort of relevant experience to fall back on, and generally, almost everything you’ve done once is easier the second time around (unless you get thrown an unexpected curveball like he did).

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          I’m the furthest thing from an expert on this whole situation, but the fact that he was able to “give up” being poor once he had a health problem implies to me that there definitely was a safety net.

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            Fair point I guess, although like everyone else ITT I haven’t watched the videos so we’re all just speculating here, aren’t we.

            Also, earning five grand a month is not exactly what I’d consider “poor”. In fact, it’s just a grand shy of a median household income in the US.

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          almost everything you’ve done once is easier the second time around

          And yet he still failed. He quit after 9 months, that’s 3/4 of the way to his deadline. 62k is not even 1/10th of the goal. I get close to that just going to work every day.

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      It was pretty scammy. He got free food, free housing, and free product, which he then sold. Yeah anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit.

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        Yeah anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit.

        You sure about that? Because there’s plenty of people living on welfare who never make it anywhere.

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          5 months ago

          Tell me you know nothing about welfare without saying you know nothing about welfare.

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            I’ve met and worked with enough people on welfare to know they’re not innocent angels for the most part.

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              I never said they were, but if you really did work with people on welfare then you’d know they aren’t getting anything for free. After you qualify for welfare most forms are aggressively measured against the exact amount they think you need to stay housed and fed. And that amount is almost always less than what’s really required. So there’s no overage to take advantage of, no house you can rent and sublet, and selling furniture on Craigslist doesn’t count as being employed for the work requirement. Further you’re not getting a break for your medical problems. You can’t just pull the ripcord and go back to being a millionaire. You have to tough it out on your job after the hospital stabilized you and turfed you like they do to all Medicaid patients.

              But no go on about their “character” and how they have to act like angels in the system currently crushing them beneath it’s bootheels.

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                Okay, look. Attacking their character was uncalled for and I apologize for that. I’ve met some fairly awful people who were on welfare but also some really good ones.

                But the point is, you said “anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit” and I gave you an example of people where that’s largely not the case. Doesn’t matter if that’s because of illness, disability, or character flaws, “anyone” means “anyone”. So shut up and just admit you were wrong.

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                  No. The point is people on welfare are paying for shit. This guy didn’t even pay for his housing. Nobody is getting free housing from the government unless they’re a 90 year old veteran in a VA Hospice facility.

                  You also didn’t give any examples. So no I’m not just going to go away.

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                    Okay, well you made the thesis that anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit, so the burden of proof is on you, not me. And you don’t even seem to believe it yourself, because you said here that there’s always idiots who will fail no matter what.

                    Sounds like you already destroyed your own argument, so I think we’re done here. Have a good day.

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        Yeah anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit.

        Yeah no, that’s not true.