• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    You don’t have to, no, but Marx makes a compelling case and explains it simply, and thoroughly. It’s easy to think that Capitalists can just maintain production, but this doesn’t bear out in reality.

    Additionally, Marx points out what are the necessary consequences of these forces.

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      5 months ago

      I agree, but quoting Marx is a little counterproductive when the audience is primarily not socialist and, indeed, might be apprehensive towards the concept due to the Leninist dictatorships and Western corporate propaganda.

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        5 months ago

        Lemmy has a very strong leftist base, especially Marxist as the devs are Marxist-Leninists, and there are many progressive liberals who would do well to read theory. I disagree with it being counterproductive to suggest reading Marx.

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          5 months ago

          The tankies over on Lemmygrad and Hexbear (aka the Dessalines and people like him) have very much left (heh) a very sour taste in the mouths of many locals.

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            Some Lemmy users are against leftism, sure, but the majority of Lemmy is Leftist leaning at minimum. That’s kind of the entire point of Lemmy’s structure, and the broader culture has morphed around that fact.

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              If I had to guess, most Lemmites are socdems, not socialists.

              It is very easy to overestimate how common one’s own viewpoint is, especially when in a filter bubble.

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                What makes you believe that to be the case? Lemmy.world is overwhelmingly liberal/socdem, but the broader Lemmyverse is Socialist leaning, whether Marxist or Anarchist.

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                  Lemmy has ~390k users. Just over 150k are on World. That’s almost 40%.

                  Another ~50k are on NSFW, and can thus be assumed to not care. If we remove them from the equation, we get ~44% being on World.

                  The third-most popular instance after World and NSFW is .ee. The people there are broadly progressive but usually not socialist. They have just under 29k.

                  Do you see where I’m going with this?

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                    5 months ago

                    Have you done a poll of the percentages that identify as liberal vs socialist on these sites, or do you genuinely believe there are no Socialists on .world or .ee?

                    Are these active users, or total users?