I agree we should let our populations decline, but it still needs to be a managed process. That’s how they should respond; manage the declining population in ways that minimize human suffering.
No management means millions dying from hunger or preventable disease, entire cities falling into dangerous disrepair and causing danger to remaining people or the animals that inhabit them when we leave, war, slavery, abandoned older gen nuclear sites melting down and probably 100 other calamities I can’t imagine.
Nature doesn’t “aim” for anything…including sustainability.
if 1.5 - 2 was the “natural” birthrate, the population wouldn’t have ever increased to this level.
I already I agree that there are too many humans. But countries with decreasing populations also have aging populations, which won’t be able to feed or care for those people without young workers. Meaning they either starve, start invading other countries with robot armies to capture slave laborers and resources, or…someone manages the decline through immigration policy, tearing down unneeded infrastructure and recycling those materials, etc.
Here’s a peer-reviewed published study detailing how 30 invasive species have led to the extension of 738 other species. They all continue to grow at unsustainable levels until the ecosystem collapses and a new equilibrium is left in the ruins. They aren’t YouTube videos, but I’m confident you can read.
In case you can’t, here’s another actual scientific article (I hope you’ll look. This one has pictures!) detailing how declining populations are also aging populations and the problems that result.
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I agree we should let our populations decline, but it still needs to be a managed process. That’s how they should respond; manage the declining population in ways that minimize human suffering.
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No management means millions dying from hunger or preventable disease, entire cities falling into dangerous disrepair and causing danger to remaining people or the animals that inhabit them when we leave, war, slavery, abandoned older gen nuclear sites melting down and probably 100 other calamities I can’t imagine.
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Nature doesn’t “aim” for anything…including sustainability.
if 1.5 - 2 was the “natural” birthrate, the population wouldn’t have ever increased to this level.
I already I agree that there are too many humans. But countries with decreasing populations also have aging populations, which won’t be able to feed or care for those people without young workers. Meaning they either starve, start invading other countries with robot armies to capture slave laborers and resources, or…someone manages the decline through immigration policy, tearing down unneeded infrastructure and recycling those materials, etc.
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Thinly veiled ad hominem attacks notwithstanding…
Here’s a peer-reviewed published study detailing how 30 invasive species have led to the extension of 738 other species. They all continue to grow at unsustainable levels until the ecosystem collapses and a new equilibrium is left in the ruins. They aren’t YouTube videos, but I’m confident you can read.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1602480113
In case you can’t, here’s another actual scientific article (I hope you’ll look. This one has pictures!) detailing how declining populations are also aging populations and the problems that result.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9577145/#:~:text=Declining in the proportion of,increasing number of senior citizens
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Upvoted for Kurtzgesagt. De-upvoted for the condescending tone of the comment.
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