Word from insiders communicating openly about it was that it wasn’t going to happen for the same reasons behind this soft end of life: there wasn’t profit in it and they needed to find profitability.
Word was that the project to federate was internally put in a “too hard let’s try later” basket. Of course none of that was made public. But this life support status is really just the other shoe from the broken federation promise.
Interestingly, I suspect there’s a conversation to be had around how difficult it is to federate with the fediverse and AP, whether from the ground up or as an add on. I’ve seen conversations about how it really is difficult work. If it were easier, maybe things like tumblr would have done it earlier and the fediverse and it’s various platforms would be richer and more successful.
Do you mean being attacked by outsiders? Reddit was down a significant amount of time and they had tons of resources. We’re doing okay and everyone powers through.
No, just the work of building the federation part of a platform.
Look at both mastodon and Lemmy, both have a huge blind spot for a major part of the ActivityPub protocol. Mastodon doesn’t manage groups well and Lemmy doesn’t manage users well, as content creating actors that is. This is obviously by design to a large extent, but the difficulty of expanding the bounds of a platform to include more of the spec seems to clearly be part of the problem.
Part of what problem? It would be nice if we could all communicate easily but it’s not really a problem. Just like twitter and facebook not really communicating isn’t a problem. If they decide to blend them, cool. If not, that’s cool too.
That platforms struggle to interact with each other more than the promise of the fediverse implies.
Segregated platforms is a hang over from competitive big social. It’s all just text messages in the end as webpages are all just HTML. Part of the promise of the fediverse is to break down these capitalistic walls. If it’s too hard to engineer though, then the promise may need some rethinking.
Word from insiders communicating openly about it was that it wasn’t going to happen for the same reasons behind this soft end of life: there wasn’t profit in it and they needed to find profitability.
Word was that the project to federate was internally put in a “too hard let’s try later” basket. Of course none of that was made public. But this life support status is really just the other shoe from the broken federation promise.
Interestingly, I suspect there’s a conversation to be had around how difficult it is to federate with the fediverse and AP, whether from the ground up or as an add on. I’ve seen conversations about how it really is difficult work. If it were easier, maybe things like tumblr would have done it earlier and the fediverse and it’s various platforms would be richer and more successful.
Meh, it’s harder for a for-profit company but not hard for the DIY people. I’m cool with that, it’s rich enough and getting richer.
Well from what I’ve gathered it’s tough work for DIY people too.
Do you mean being attacked by outsiders? Reddit was down a significant amount of time and they had tons of resources. We’re doing okay and everyone powers through.
No, just the work of building the federation part of a platform.
Look at both mastodon and Lemmy, both have a huge blind spot for a major part of the ActivityPub protocol. Mastodon doesn’t manage groups well and Lemmy doesn’t manage users well, as content creating actors that is. This is obviously by design to a large extent, but the difficulty of expanding the bounds of a platform to include more of the spec seems to clearly be part of the problem.
Part of what problem? It would be nice if we could all communicate easily but it’s not really a problem. Just like twitter and facebook not really communicating isn’t a problem. If they decide to blend them, cool. If not, that’s cool too.
That platforms struggle to interact with each other more than the promise of the fediverse implies.
Segregated platforms is a hang over from competitive big social. It’s all just text messages in the end as webpages are all just HTML. Part of the promise of the fediverse is to break down these capitalistic walls. If it’s too hard to engineer though, then the promise may need some rethinking.