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        Probably? This is textbook for these people. Every accusation from Conservatives is an admission of guilt.

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      Are any of his views backed up by Jesus?

      I’m no religious scholar, and I’m aware the Bible is so full of vauge and conflicting statements that it’s possible to cherry pick a verse that agrees with literally any worldview, but let me cherry pick a few that this man must interpret differently than me.

      John 8:1-11 Religious leaders bring Jesus a woman who has commited adultery and asks if he agrees with religious laws that state she should be stoned to death. His response is the often quoted “let any one of you who is without sin cast the first stone”.

      Luke 7:36-50 Jesus is dinning at the home of a religious leader. A prostitute enters and washes the feet of Jesus with her tears and hair. He explains to the religious leader that this woman has shown him great love because he has forgiven her of great sins. However, the religious leader has shown Jesus no love. Jesus explains “Those who have been forgiven of little, love little”.

      I’d argue Jesus would be against jailing people for watching porn if he so easily forgave adultery and prostitution.

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      About half

      Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

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        Doesn’t mean his views are ba banned by Jesus.

        Jesis just said you wouldn’t inherit the kingdom of God, not that you should be put in jail.

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              Hell is not real, bring fucked up from that idea is real.

              Look, I don’t want anyone’s pity and I don’t particularly want to get into it so I will keep it short. I have been an atheist since 2018. I still have issues with the belief in hell and it fucking hurts. Even with secular therapy I don’t think I will ever fully recover.

              You can change laws but you can’t undo the damages the doctrine of hell has done to the human race.

              On the plus side I got to be very proud of my ten year old daughter when someone told her about hell and she brought up very good questions about it. Love my little free thinkers.

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    I’m not looking forward to learning what weird shit this dude is actually into. It’s gotta be real pervert hours when he goes down to his sex dungeon.

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      There was one person the Knowledge Fight guys did a break episode on who wanted to make porn illegal. After getting pretty far into the episode Dan finally reveals what he eventually found out after the guy mentions people having legal issues:

      His son got caught with (already illegal) child porn, and it hurt his sons career options. So this man’s idea is to ban all porn… despite the reason for his tirade being already illegal. He just wants to harm everyone else too, lashing out.

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        His son got caught with (already illegal) child porn, and it hurt his sons career options. So this man’s idea is to ban all porn… despite the reason for his tirade being already illegal.

        He probably thinks regular porn is a “gateway drug” to more extreme porn, eventually culminating in what his son was caught with. This isn’t a super uncommon view, and isn’t even limited to weird fundies or even the right. I don’t agree with it personally, but I’ve seen it enough times from people on enough sides that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s part of that crowd.

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        And she only asked because she does and thought maybe it would spice things up for them and improve their relationship.

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      That’s the point. The US has for profit prisons and also uses prisoners as slave labor (ok, technically not slave, they officially get paid, but it’s like $0.03 an hour or something, so it’s effectively slave labor). More prisoners means more profits for the owners and the politicians they give kickbacks to. They’re modern day plantations. The more things change the more they stay the same.

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        They’re usually paid some miniscule amount, but not always; the 13th amendment specifically allows prisoners to be used as slaves. Most states have laws banning it, but not all of them.

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        Yeah, I tend to use the phrase “coerced labor” when I talk about that s***.

        I completely agree with everything you’re saying, the American criminal, judicial and prison system is absolutely f****** horrifying.

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        They could be payed 1000 dollars an hour and it would still be slavery.

        Slavery doesn’t mean working for free. It means being forced to work without having a choice.

        Just look at historic plantations. They got paid a decent wage but they had no choice. They couldn’t leave. They couldn’t up and go do something else.

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        Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, and Texas do not pay incarcerated workers at all for their labor.

        This only adds to your point, but I wanted to include that several states (in the South of course) do in fact pay absolutely NOTHING for their prison labor.

        Some areas may pay prisoners minimum wage for work release jobs, but I believe many of those can turn around and garnish those same wages for room and board at the prison. It’s ridiculous. The second you make more than a dime for your labor, we will start charging you for the right to live again.

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    The con movement is chock full of creepy weirdos and freaks. If they want some con paradise where they love oil and have morality police, they should get their freak selves over to Saudi Arabia, and fuck right off from here.

    This is a country founded on secular values - the xtian jesus freak stuff need not apply to government, thanks.

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      Seriously, you’re right that land already exists.

      • Illegal porn
      • Illegal drinking
      • Morality police
      • Women are under control of men
      • Religion is part of government
      • The wealthy can do whatever they want
      • Essentially legalized slavery through exploitation of migrants

      Sounds like their paradise, they can move there. Trying to make other countries like that is just greedy.

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    So is this like a person that actually matters or just some retarded american yokel the media is using for clickbait?

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      That’s not a phrase they’ve heard before.

      Donate to the Satanic Temple. They’re fighting this fight for us by challenging these assholes.

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          That’s was the Church of Satan. The Satanic Temple is a very different organization.

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          I don’t know their history, but I thought they were a separate group. Maybe they branched off from his thing, though.

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          That was The Church of Satan. Different orgs. Satanic Temple has never been about Satan. LaVey was a publicity hound. Different causes.

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    lol great. Now we just need hackers to hack every republican device, so that at least ⅔ of the party ends up in jail.

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      No need. There is a 100% chance that everyone that would vote for a measure like this has loads of porn on their devices already.

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      Two thirds? Damn you’re optimistic. More like 90%. I’d guess about a third of those would be looking at jail time if their porn was revealed even if regular porn wasn’t made illegal. Remember with Republicans every accusation is an admission and they’ve been awfully strident about groomers lately.

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    I suspect a case of projection here. Make porn illegal so I will no longer be tempted to watch it.

    I think someone needs to research prohibition a bit more. During which time nude images, even art, were banned in many areas.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In Deevers’ view, civil society, apart from the influence of overt Christian doctrine, is not a neutral middle ground, but rather the realm of the devil, or what he calls “a serpentine theocracy.”

    But when Deevers opens his mouth, he invariably presents a jarring, black-and-white view of the role of government — which he believes exists to “protect innocent people and to punish and terrorize evildoers.”

    While campaigning, Deevers told a religious podcast he also favors “public shaming for those who are at fault in divorce.” (In a related essay, he calls this “an important act of justice for both the transgressor and the transgressed.”)

    Deevers embodies a threat that experts believe Christian nationalism poses to democracy — by literally demonizing his opponents, and casting compromise as moral corruption.

    As Brad Onishi, author of an “Extremist History of Christian Nationalism,” recently described in an interview with Rolling Stone: “If you’re a person who is convinced that the United States is under threat by a Luciferian regime, comprised of Marxist globalist secularists, feminists, the LGBTQ community, and so on, democracy is not your sacred value.”

    Pitching himself to voters, Deevers filmed a campaign ad wielding a rifle while wearing a black T-shirt that read: “Obey God: Defy Tyrants.” He railed against “the Godless leftist agenda” that he warned threatens “thriving families and their moral development.” He additionally decried “drag queen story hour” and the “chemical and surgical mutilation of our kids.” A longtime opponent of abortion, Deevers positioned this stance in biblical terms as “loving my pre-born neighbor as myself.”


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