I’m enjoying this. Also Musk went out and said that he wants barriers on trade or else the Chinese companies will dominate the market.
I thought Musk would be happy, because he truly wants to save the planet doesn’t he? It shouldn’t matter if he or someone else makes the best electric cars then?
Could it be because among affluent, environmentally conscious consumers, it’s no longer cool to be driving a car made by an unhinged right-wing narcissist?
Musk said on the earnings call that his concern would be, given his current shareholding, that he will have “so little influence” in the future that some major shareholder could strip away his control or make a bad decision.
Or could it be a consequence of dumping shares to fund a megalomaniacal need to own a social media platform?
I’d say it’s more that he’s saturated the early adopter market. Selling to a more cost and quality conscious market is harder. The fact consumer reports rates their cars less reliable than McDonald’s ice cream machines is a bigger problem than Musk’s ego.
I have no major issues with my car but for the money, the build quality was crappy. It’s not what you’d expect for a car of that cost.
Might be different over there, but here Teslas are a great deal. There aren’t yet a lot of cheaper cars than the model 3, and none can beat the range at its price. Compared to Volkswagen, you get a prettier car, with more range and a heck of a lot better infotainment system, as well as some neat included features (like heated seats)
A) There are way cheaper alternatives, with better build quality
B) A Tesla will flat out lie to you about its range
First, the only range that I consider is the one that is brought by standardised tests, such as WLTP and EPA standards. While they may not be realistic (WLTP in particular is terrible) but at least they give a consistent frame of comparison.
Now, if there are better alternatives, do present me with some! The only remotely interesting one i can think about is the ioniq 5, but hyundai in my country has their head up their butt, and you can’t see prices on their website. From external reviews, the 5 is competitive with the long range Model 3 from tesla. However, on the lower end, the only real alternatives I am aware of are from Volkswagen, which A are more expensive with a lower WLTP range estimate, B are smaller and in my opinion look kinda boring, and C probably have a way worse infotainement system (although I’m curious if Volkswagen has managed to fix it, I’ve heard mixed things about their latest models).
Electric cars generally have heated seats. Since heat doesn’t come as a free byproduct, it’s more efficient to keep occupants warm by heating the seats than the air.
bad decisions, like making a truck that looks like… that…
I’m not entirely sure how to phrase this, but… Today there are choices…
I don’t think the word “Charlatan” has ever applied to anyone more aptly than Musk.
Nah, a charlatan has class. Musk doesn’t.
How much of it can be attributed to Elon alienating potential buyers? Every shareholder must be thinking this.
A lot. Also, since he’s been busy spreading hate on Xitter, Telsa has notably lacked direction and focus. They’ve just been coasting for the past three years or so. Time for a new CEO.
Don’t forget poor quality assurance and build quality in general, although I’m sure that too can be traced back to phony Stark
A couple years ago a lot of people were quite happy to make that compromise in the name of helping the environment. Not so much after Musk showed his true colours.
He’s no Tony Stark. More like a Justin Hammer but with less charisma.
But have they figured out how to keep the wheels from falling off?
I think they are adding a monthly subscription fee for that feature.
Front fell off
Well that’s not typical.
Musk is in the process of destroying Tesla.
Maybe Twitter first, we will see I guess. Worst manager ever.
Twitter is already dead, we are just watching the corpse discompose as only the diehard fans and the utterly addicted remain and slowly first reduce their use/replace some of their time with some other social media, then outright abandon it. Online platforms rarely die with a bombastic thunder, but instead limp with a wimp for a long time, shells of their former selves. For example, My Space and Digg are still around.
Can we please have those cheap Chinese EVs flood the market??
The cheap chinese EVs are only really cheap because of the heavy subsidies provided by the Chinese governments. And they’re mostly really targeting developing nations where a cheap car really matters. The US is already flooded with cars, and money so it’s going to be a lot harder to break into that market. Plus both the people and the government have their biases against the Chinese to boot.
and they are designed to last 5 years and are rusting so bad that Russians are regretting them.
Which ones are cheap again?
Again, that ‘truck’, …The Homer.
You want me as a customer? Kick your CEO out, improve part availability for me as a long time owner after warranty ends, open up repair documentation. Oh, and stop making battery packs a monolithic block of cells and glue.
If I splurge 50k€ on something, I need to be sure that I won’t lose that investment over a minor event.
He could, and has shown that he will disable the car if you make a mean tweet about him. Stay away…
I think Volvo Recharge models are better than Tesla anyway. :)
Much higher quality, much more quiet inside, and Volvo actually knows how to make a car.
Same issues though. I don’t yet trust chinese manufacturers to offer proper repair manuals and parts longterm.
Tesla stock is the most overhyped shit on the wallstreet.
I think it goes without saying that if you want to protect your domestic market, that having trade restrictions and tariffs is essential. Especially if you have higher labour and environmental standards. So I do support Tusk in that matter. I still think he’s a twat though.
But don’t they already have that in the US? It seems that brands like Kia are not nearly as big in the US, while they have explosive growth here in Northern europe since they get top reviews.
Does Kia really get good reviews in Europe? They seem to be best known for their enormous fuck ups in the US.
Yeah they are at the top of most reviews here. They have a bad reputation from before but trying to clean up their act. The Kia EV6 is very highly rated, and Kia Sportage as well.
Wouldn’t that be in breach of WTO rules? Certainly tariffs based on carbon are likely moving forwards. Protectionism doesn’t help anyone long term.
