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After scuttling a months-long search for a new host, the Paramount Global network said it had enlisted Jon Stewart, who presided over the late-night mainstay’s most popular era, to serve as its host on Monday nights throughout the 2024 election cycle and to run the program. He is expected to oversee the program through 2025. Various “Daily Show” correspondents will host the program Tuesday through Thursday nights, and Jen Flanz, the current executive producer, will continue her duties on the show.
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You son of a bitch, I’m in.
A BRILLIANT LIGHT SUDDENLY BURNS IN THE DARKNESS.
HE HAS RISEN
I’ll never not believe that if Jon was running the Daily Show for the 2016 election season, Trump wouldn’t have been elected.
Either way, Zelenskyy proved what a satirical comedian with good character can do on the world stage. Wish Jon would just run for office already…
Side note: Mehdi Hasan has left MSNBC… Apart from Jon, I can think of nobody else more qualified to run the Daily Show.
I’ve thought the same thing ever since that dipshit got elected president in 2016.
Stewart’s presence in the media was real and impactful. Really wish he had stayed a few more years.
Idk if so many people remember this now, but watching him on Crossfire absolutely shut them down was so satisfying. Then the show just happens to get cancelled not long after for ‘unrelated reasons’, like they didn’t get destroyed and quit in shame.
Oh yes I remember that fondly. Crazy to think that bumbling bow-tie dipshit would go on to have one of the biggest conservative followings and basically be a Kremlin mouthpiece. Fuck Carlson.
Plus it would have been a golden age. The Bush years all over again
Bassem Youssef is the only not-Jon i want.
Yeah it’s no way the timing of Trump was an accident. He literally ran before when Jon was still working and was laughed off the stage. Then Jon retired…
What Zelenskyy did, his career trajectory I mean, is nothing short of… well, the sitcom fiction he wrote himself. A good one, btw— it’s called Servant of the People. It’s on Netflix. He’s hilarious. And that may be the most fucked up part: he seemingly predicted all of this (to some degree) in the form of, honestly, a pretty hilarious sitcom that got cancelled before the 3rd season started production because it fucking came true.
It’s not a direct A:B comparison of reality, but it’s uncannily close— also, proof that Ukraine is perfectly capable of making a delightfully funny politically-oriented sitcom for streaming. Well, until the guy became president and globally-beloved war daddy. Nonetheless, it’s bizarre how it coincided with, or perhaps provoked, real-word events that led to him becoming a popularly-elected anti-corruption president against all of the “influence” Russia could throw at the elections.
And he’s lived up to all of his promises. He spent the first pert of his presidency cleaning house, something he’s kept doing, even after meeting deep parliamentary resistance. Fucker has stood up to Trump’s attempts to extort him, over which Trump got impeached, btw. Like… holy shit! World leaders from far greater nations have melted in front of US presidents. Not this guy. After the Russians invaded, something nobody expected a comedian to have the temerity to face, he, in no uncertain terms - with a raised middle finger to Putin - has become one of the most inspiring world leaders of the 21st-century.  not only his people, but people all over the world fucking love him.  More importantly, they respect him. 
He’s amazing.
I think Jon would be great as president. Definitely better than our current options. But if he was done with the Daily Show (and even if he never left) I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he didn’t want the actual job of being president.
He has explicitly said before that he does not want to run for president and does not want that job.
Which is ironically part of the reason he’d be so good at it.
Which is all the more reason to have a massive write in campaign for him.
Those who do not lust for power, are those most suitable to be burdened with it.
I get what you’re saying but that’s cruel as fuck.
I think that job would kill him.
It’s not that cruel. I get what you’re saying and agree a little. But if drafted into the job, I think he’d be proud to serve his country and the world.
I think it’s not just the main part of the job he doesn’t want. He doesn’t want to be the center of the media storm. He doesn’t want his years of testicle jokes to end up harming the country. He doesn’t want the job of begging for the job.
And the main job would be a duty he’d serve, not a fulfillment of a lifelong dream.
If the circumstances are right, I’d consider writing him in. If there wasn’t a more important vote. Honestly I should have done it when I lived in Maryland.
Something tells me electing a fucking mentally declining nazi with a hitler fetish is just a skosh more cruel.
Fair point, but I’m talking about the cruelty to a man who does not want the job.
I don’t think Zelensky is a good example of anything lol his government has been the most right-wing and authoritarian government in Ukraine in recent memory. They banned all left-wing parties for goodness sake….
Those of us who remember the Orange Revolution understand the incredible political attack that Ukraine has been under for decades. Russia has expended unprecedented expenditure understanding democracy in order to develop mechanisms to undermine it.
It’s extremely unfortunate the reality in which former Soviet states exist. While it’s distasteful, it’s certainly necessary given a reality that westerners barely understand… Which is kind of shocking to me given the outcome of Jan 6.
I think when the war is over, it would be appropriate for him to not even run. Hard men make hard decisions when under existential threat. I’m glad Ukraine had a Churchill when Ukraine needed a Churchill… But when that time comes for a peacetime leader, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t the right man in the right place at the right time.
It is from a position of privilege and ignorance that we criticize the necessary actions of wartime leaders.
You think necessary actions is absorbing and legitimising far-right and Nazi militias? Literally banning and arresting left-wing activists? Kidnapping men in the middle of the night to conscript them? Bombing indiscriminately civilians on the East? Bro fuck off.
Churchill was a genocidal racist maniac btw, if he’s your idea of a hero, I understand where you’re coming from. And again, bro fuck right the fuck off.
I’m continually perplexed by people who claim to be anti-nazi but are here to light up (checks notes) Winston Churchill.
I think there’s room for “Churchill was instrumental in the fight against fascism” and “Churchill was himself racist and enacted racist policies that lead to genocide” to coexist.
In the context of a good faith conversation, I agree.
When people are bending over backwards to intentionally push well-defined buttons to drive state-level propaganda, I do not.
It’s so incredibly well crafted, this doofuses original post. He argues that Zelenski is a nightmare to the Left-wing.
Why? Because it’s a position and delivery crafted to the general Lemmy populace. “I’m left wing! Is Zelensky against me? Should I be reconsidering my position? Am I against Ukraine, because I’m certainly for left-wing stuff”
It’s nausiatingly transparent propaganda. Ever meter of Ukraine under Russian occupation, it is illegal to even SUGGEST that LGBT is good, it’s ILLEGAL to merely express POSITIVE SENTIMENT. While we can agree in Ukraine it isn’t perfect, it’s NOT EVEN CLOSE to the oppression in Russia.
There is nuance that adults in good faith can examine. The FBI investigation into Russian interference in US elections pointed out that the EXACT vulnerability in western sensibilities that their propeganda exploits is the concept that every assertion warrants a discussion. Just cycle wedge issues. Drop in, drop a bomb, fuck off.
It’s entirely appropriate to just say “No, you’re clearly a bad faith actor and I’m not going to give the illusion of legitimacy of your claims by digging into the nuances with you”
You really seem misinformed. Wagner has more association with nazism. Even Putin’s right-hand man, his modern Rasputin if you will, is a literal dyed-in-the-wool neo-nazi who wrote the plans Putin is literally carrying out.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is of no difference than Hitler’s justification to invade Poland “for ethnic Germans.”
At the end of the day, the Jewish leader Zelenskyy who lost family in the Holocaust, disrupted the sockpuppetry that was originally taking place in Ukraine. As the war continued, the remnants of corruption have continued to be weeded out, though still some remain.
You really seem misinformed. There are Nazis in Russia, nobody said there weren’t. But Russia didn’t absorb the Nazis into their government and state apparatus, gave them leadership positions in ministries etc.
And Nazi Germany invaded Poland because of Lebensraum, basically German Manifest Destiny. Russia invaded Ukraine because of NATO and the color revolution in 2014.
Yes Russia did, what are you smoking? I just told you Putin’s right-hand man is a nazi. You just ignored that conveniently lol. RT, the Kremlin mouthpiece, spouts nazi propaganda on the daily.
What absorption of nazism in Ukraine are you talking about and when, specifically?
No, Russia didn’t even Ukraine “because NATO,” considering Ukraine wasn’t in NATO and intentionally didn’t join to stop Russian aggression. Yet Russia did so anyway.
Ironically the DEFENSIVE Alliance that is NATO would’ve saved many lives of women and children from the brutal Russian invasion because Russia knows they’d get demolished by NATO.
You are clearly drinking far too much Russian vodka, my friend.
Finally, please learn your history regarding WWII:
Hitler sought to use this as casus belli, a reason for war, reverse the post-1918 territorial losses, and on many occasions had appealed to German nationalism, promising to “liberate” the German minority still in the Corridor, as well as Danzig.
But you’re right: this was just a convenient excuse. Just as Russia is using it as a convenient excuse for their own sort of Lebensraum, basically Russian Manifest Destiny. Or wait – did you not read Putin’s 5,000 word essay where he spells this out…?
Assuming you’re talking about the Azov Batallion, if you are fighting a war for your country’s survival and you have a rabid band of ethnonationalists, who clearly suck in terms of their views and beliefs, but are otherwise willing to die to protect your country, why wouldn’t you let them?
… I’m talking about right-sector, azov, national corps etc. They were brought into leadership and legitimized as part of the national guard and army. That is inexcusable. You would really side with Nazis to defend “your country”? After the war is over, Ukraine will become an ultra-right wing state. The state apparatus will have been completely overtaken by these militias and groups.
That’s like saying the UK should’ve legitimized and absorbed the British Fascist Party during WW2, made Oswald Mosley the minister of defense (which was done in Ukraine…) etc. That’s insane, but it does show how you liberals see the world. Scratch a liberal etc etc
Do you think Nazis don’t exist in modern western militaries? Also, you think Nazis are liberal? You seem like either a troll or an idiot.
Azov et. al., literally make up <1% of the total UAF. lol what are you talking about? These people just have a common enemy and it’s all-hands-on-deck to oust the foreign invader. The same thing even happened in WWII America when pro-Nazi sects of our society took up arms against Japan.
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Right I don’t get what’s so hard to comprehend.
In America we have an arguably bigger base of right-wing nazi extremists. The Base, Oathkeepers, 3%ers, Proud Boys, etc.
… And you know what? If someone invaded our country that may actually be the only time my bleeding heart leftist would share a fox hole with them out of common goals.
That doesn’t make USA a nazi state lol. But of course, let’s not pretend this was ever a legitimate argument by Russia in the first place.
Finally, some good news.
Out of a lot of jackasses in the world, Jon Stewart continues to be clear-headed unmitigated good.
Yes, that means I have forgiven him for using trans people as the butt of his jokes for a long time, and I’m hoping he’s had enough growth to understand why those were bad. Also, to be fair, it’s been quite a while since he has done a joke like that. And if he turns on a dime and makes some uncouth remarks about trans folks, he’ll be in shit-city with me, and I’ll take back the good things I said about him. Pretty sure he won’t tho.
I’m less concerned about trans jokes specifically, but I worry that Jon Stewart of now won’t be able to live up to our memories of him during the W years. Will be be sufficiently progressive for modern left viewers, or is he going to be a Bill Maher “center left” type? Will he be is sharp and cutting as he was, and be able to translate that to a world that is so more polarized and down the rabbit hole with conspiracy theories and all that junk?
Basically I’m afraid this is Michael Jordan coming out of retirement to play for the Washington Wizards.
Maybe my concerns are not well placed, I didn’t catch his newer show because I don’t feel like subscribing to Apple TV, so I don’t know where he’s at nowadays. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m fully prepared to be let down.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jon-stewart-atones-for-his-own-shitty-anti-trans-jokes
He is self aware and takes responsibility, which I think is the best thing we can expect from just about anyone.
Jon is how I got sucked into US politics all those years ago. He was amazing. Look at me now, knowing things about stuff and all. Thanks Jon!
Everyone says the darkest timeline started when Harambe was killed. I think it was when Stewart left the Daily Show.
Maybe this will be able to get us back a little bit.
Dicks Out For Harambe
Or 9/11, JFK assassination, or MLK, maybe when Debbie Wasserman Schultz handed the DNC over to the Clinton campaign, maybe after the civil war when the traitors weren’t brought to justice, or when Gore won but didn’t take the seat. There are so many turning points.
I often wonder if an impassioned Jon Stewart plea in 2016 might have motivated enough young Bernie supporters to make the difference in a few swing states.
Chicago Cubs world series.
Why did he leave btw? Did he retire?
Almost seems like he took a holiday and now wants to start back on easier hours.
He had been doing it for 16 years. I think he said he needed a break. He took one for a few years, then started a show on Apple TV which was recently ended by Apple.
Reading this and thinking “It started in the 90s?” before realising 16 years ago was 2008…
Nothing would have been easier than hosting during the 2016 campaign w/ Trump doing the writing for him.
He could have had a show compromised of nothing but reading quotes verbatim, pausing only for nonverbal reactions
Great! Now do President.
Does Jon even want the job? It sucks. You have to deal with so many roadblocks. You get blamed for everything. You pitch ideas and make demands and some shithead dept will block you and some company throws billions to turn the public against you.
Unless he finds loopholes like Trump and load it up with toadies willing to bow to the king, which I doubt Stewart wants to abuse because he has ethics, it’ll be hard to get much of the government on his side.
Even basic shit like feeding school kids is a fucking political theater by assholes.
He doesn’t want the job. That’s kinda the point. We could use someone who doesn’t WANT the job but does it anyway.
The only people who should be allowed to hold power are people who don’t want it.
Make it like jury duty. You get 4 years in the hotseat then it’s on to something else. Imagine the diversity of experience, good and bad. You can’t lead a committee that has anything to do with your civilian career.
That would be in the same spirit as the system of government in ancient Athens. Common people being chosen by lottery to have a seat in governement. From the little I know on the subject, I always thought it seemed like a really solid democratic system.
DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An’ how’d you get that, eh? By exploitin’ the workers – by ‘angin’ on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an’ social differences in our society! If there’s ever going to be any progress–
WOMAN: Dennis, there’s some lovely filth down here. Oh – how d’you do?
ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that?
WOMAN: King of the who?
ARTHUR: The Britons.
WOMAN: Who are the Britons?
ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we’re all Britons and I am your king.
WOMAN: I didn’t know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
DENNIS: You’re fooling yourself. We’re living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes–
WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.
DENNIS: That’s what it’s all about if only people would–
ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
WOMAN: No one live there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don’t have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,–
ARTHUR: Be quiet! DENNIS: –but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more–
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
Of the people, by the people, for the people, literally
I’d cry.
That’s Wednesdays
Everyone could write him in and he would have to do it, right?
They would be wasted votes, and have to do it would be considered indentured servitude I’m fairly certain haha
Finally some good fucking news
About bad news
9/11 was good news. Well it wasn’t good news, obviously, but it was good news.
For people who love Bad news 🎶
Sorry, kinda had that feel
Well Jon Stewart’s coming back, so we’ve got that going for us at least!
Doing more for America than the government was.
He’s a god damn hero, I mean that genuinely.
Excellent. Keep fighting the good fight Jon.
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How dare you say “first”. Don’t you put that bad mojo on me
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The only worthy host of the show. He was able to make a comedy show compete with shows on so-called news channels.
I wonder why it looks like he was the last person considered for the show, is it because he cared about issues that he talked about and made young people care?
Kilborn wasn’t that bad.
It was OK, but it was a really different show than what Jon Stewart ended up doing with it. It was much more like 1990s-era SNL‘s Weekend Update. 
He was the last person considered because 1) he already hosted for 16 years and quit so they probably assumed he didn’t want to go back to it, and 2) when they started considering people, Stewart was under contract with a competing show on AppleTV+ (The Problem w/ Jon Stewart), but that show was recently cancelled. Also, The Problem only airs once a week, so imagine Stewart told CC that he’d only come back to do one show weekly rather than the four that he used to do.
It’s funny. I saw the potential of the daily show early on. Was a fan from the first episode.
When they let Craig Kilborne go, replaced him with no name comedian Jon Stuart, and ended five questions, I was so angry I wrote to Comedy Central and said the show would never be funny again. Boy was I wrong.
He likely wasn’t the last person considered. He was the hardest person to get.
He had another show up until recent, and I was famously burnt out from the Daily Show. They Likely need to wait until he was free and make him an offer that he couldn’t resist.
I’m just a random person in the world, so my opinion doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things…but I have never found Trevor Noah even slightly funny my entire life.
I feel bad saying that, because he seems like a genuine, sincere person from what I have read and watched, but his delivery on the Daily Show just comes across as bland/flat to me, I stopped watching maybe 1 year into his tenure.
Maybe not funny all the time, but if you go on YouTube the daily show channel used to post between the scenes cuts of Trevor. I also used to dislike his delivery, but I found him way more interesting and engrossing in the more off-the-cuff style. I am convinced it was the writers or producers who were dropping the ball.
I also loved his freeform stuff. Perhaps scripted hosting just isn’t his bag.
As someone with no special insight into the internal workings, and who didnt watch trevor noah’s DS too much, or know much about noah himself, i’ve honestly been pretty convinced that the problems with TN DS doesn’t really have anything to do with trevor specifically, but i’m reasonably sure that comedy central took jon stewart leaving as an opportunity to “tame” the writing on the show.
I feel like comedy central wanted to pull the show back from leaning too far left to appeal to a wider audience.
What i mean by that, is where jon stewart might tear into a political figure for the way they stand on some particular issue he disagrees with, trevor’s daily show would like…make fun of their hair/clothes, or some other “safe” joke that doesn’t get too political.
And noah, unfairly, probably takes all the blame for this, even though i’m quite sure this is on the studio heads and was outside his control.
As a non-US person, I want to point out that US politics has shifted so far to the right that centrists in any other country would look like far left to you.
I’m aware, I’m just explaining what I think was the view from the network on the matter
“too far left”
I mean, Jon Stewart is pretty left if you consider the majority of Democrats to be Neoliberals. Jon lambasted everyone, and that’s fine, bit then he lambasted companies and “centrist” talking points, and THAT was too far for some.
His show was wildly popular, seems unlikely he was too far anywhere.
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His stand-up is actually really great. I just never really liked him all that much on TDS.
I’ll have to check out his stand up too.
I absolutely turned around on Noah. His standup is fantastic.
His daily show era is still kinda bland. His “Outsider looking into America” perspective didn’t really fit what Stewart built up.
Agreed. He had big shoes to fill, and I don’t know that anyone except maybe Colbert could’ve actually done it. He did have some good moments though, I remember a brief segment where he questioned why the US always seems to make things into an X vs Y dynamic, instead of X and Y.
“Why does it have to be cat people and dog people? Why can’t we just love both of them?!”
I liked his from-home stuff during Covid, but never liked TDS with Trevor Noah. I’m not exactly sure why. Too silly, not “edgy,” insightful, or hard hitting enough I guess. John Oliver’s show is pretty good though.
I agree. See also, Seth Myers. Like I get that hosting a regular show is hard because you need to consistently entertain with fresh material. But damn do they both miss the mark there.
And don’t get me wrong. They both seem like sincere and down to earth dudes, but funny, they ain’t
I really like Seth Meyers. His material is very targeted and curated to his audience, though, which he’s gotten to know very well by interacting with them, especially in YT comments (indirectly). You’re either in that audience or you’re not.
Corrections is the best goddamn thing on YouTube.
Kinda like John Oliver for me, He’s a better writer than performer I think and I don’t like his delivery
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Consequential election + Stewart… America’s back baby!!
Hanging chads pt II coming this Winter
Stewart is great, but I wonder if any of the original writing staff is returning as well. He didn’t carry the original show alone, and even the opening monologue will hit different if there’s a new team behind it.
I assume he’ll bring some Apple TV folks along.
But also the show has been solid for years. Trevor did a great job, the guest hosts have done an great job. The show is and has been great.
Now, that isn’t to say you don’t need a good host. The guest hosts only having a week or so don’t have time to make the show truly their own, but they still add their personal touch.
Trevor, during the pandemic especially, added a huge personal touch and really made the show work well.
Jon, coming back, is going to have a lot of fun and I’m looking forward to it.
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I’m the asshole who liked the og show and host Killborn. I didn’t watch it initially when Stewart took over. It was a different show… Man what an idiot I was… While I liked the og version Stewart made it so much better. Glad to see him back in some form.
I remember the original ads of “it’s the same Daily show, but now under 6 feet tall” or whatever
You reminded me to go back and find the Waco, TX promo. So much nostalgia.
Same. I wrote to Comedy Central and said the show would never be funny again. Ha.
