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    9 months ago

    Dude just needed a better PR team.

    “By the lords blessing washing your hands in holy water and soap allows Christ to deliver the baby”

    People would’ve seen the decrease in mortality and he could’ve gotten a selfie with the pope.

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      9 months ago

      But then he’d given The Imaginary Man undeserved credit, and who knows where medicine would be today? so I think it was all for the best

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        Yeaaa religion set humanity back far enough as is, we need to attribute as little as possible to it

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      9 months ago

      Imagine if Jesus Christ himself was just a benevolent charlatan that tried to codify a good standard of conduct for all his followers (and was then sadly overinterpreted and used for the occasional hate-speech)

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    9 months ago

    Semmelweis was also kind of an asshole and would camp out by hospital sinks and yell at staffers for not washing their hands. He had the right idea, but he also had a shit personality which definitely contributed to the “everyone hated him” thing.

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      It also wasn’t soap and water handwashing. He had them wash in chlorinated lime, which did turn out to be effective in killing germs but also wasn’t the most pleasant stuff to be constantly putting your hands in.

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    9 months ago

    What I’m wondering is why the midwives for some reason had cleaner hands hand the male doctors?

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      I think once when this was posted they said doctors would see other patients and even perform autopsies then do surgeries with no hand washing between.

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      They weren’t dealing with other sick people I imagine. Also I bet they tended spend more time with each patient since they only did one specialist task.

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      9 months ago

      Are you really wondering?

      State your case and move on. You are probably filled with foolish ideas too. We all are. All you can do is grow.

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          Did you not research the phenomenon a bit? Google it?

          One hypothesis is that they didn’t touch the stuff that the doctors touched.

          I mean I’m getting that your question is rhetorical. Which is to say it doesn’t get to the point quickly. And I think you’d be better off getting to the point quickly. So you can move on to more meaningful investigations.

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            There was nothing rhetorical about the question. He asked a question. Rhetorical doesn’t mean anything about getting to the point quickly. It means a question that doesn’t need an answer.

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              A rhetorical question avoids getting to the point because getting to the point is not the point of rhetoric. The point of rhetoric is emotional effect. Therefore when swift and easy arrival at the point is eschewed (a moment’s google), and an emotional effect is clearly evident, then rhetoric is clearly the point.

              Tangentially, consider the phenomenon of “smugnorance”.

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                And his question wasn’t beating around the bush. He literally just asked a question. It wasn’t rhetorical. Just because you say it’s rhetorical doesn’t make it rhetorical. Rhetorical.

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                  And repeating your thesis sways me not at all.

                  Have you tried whacking yourself in the head with a rock?

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    I can’t wait to see what future generations will remark “I can’t believe they lived in a world without that knowledge” about our time.

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        “What do you mean things are so small that we can’t see them with the human eye?”

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          I’ll fix the typo once Jerboa is working again. Seems to be the only app I can use to edit a post with.

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            9 months ago

            Huh. I thought that was the big difference from Reddit, you could edit posts. I guess it’s only post text not titles…

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              So far I think it depends on the app. I mostly use Sync which I suspect looks at Lemmy from a Reddit functionality point of view. As I recall you can’t edit post titles so I suspect the app doesn’t even include the option or it’s a paid feature.

              When I use Jerboa there’s more options like editing post titles, and seeing the various up and down vote counts plus the total for posts/comments. In Sync it’s just the total of the upvotes/downvotes. I’m sure there’s more differences but these are the big ones I’ve seen so far.

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                Interesting. Maybe I’ll have to give Jerboa another look. Hoping we’ll have more choices in both mature apps and features down the road…

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                  Jerboa has been upgraded since the summer. There was some stuff with swipe navigation which was an issue for my use case but I think that’s been changed along with many other things now. It should be my daily driver now over Sync but muscle memory so far is keeping it from not being yet.

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    Like Nietschze; I mean the official theory ist that he contracted syfilis as a young man and therefore later in his life ended up in an insane asylum; which of course was fathomable and apparently happend a lot in the end of the 19th century. I for myself kinda choose to stick to the theory that he just couldn’t take the world view he created for himself anymore and the ignorance of the vast majority, so that he also had something like a ‘nervous breakdown’ that landed him in such a place. But well, I guess that’s just trivia or the ramblings of another mad man… 😜cheers

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    The fucked up part is that barely a decade after his death - thanks to the efforts of Louis Pasteur - Semmelweis’s work went from so controversial they condemned him to his death, to becoming the basis for the field of aseptics

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    9 months ago

    I can’t believe that you take dreams seriously. Everybody knows they’re just hallucinations.

    Afterlife? Reincarnation? It’s just fantasies.

    A creator of the universe? Crazy.

    Little people. Spirits. Sure people reported seeing them for thousands of years. But now we know better.

    Don’t be crazy.

    I know I’m beating this point into the dirt. But seriously.

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      So many of us think of ourselves as smart and sensible while actually being as locked into the paradigm of the hour as a 13th century religious zealot. Same insanity, different century.