• DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t it true that M4A could be paid for 3x with the amount we currently spend on our existing system? The insurance companies are the scam.

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      Yes, the amount we pay just for Medicare and Medicaid is much more than we spend on defense (a large part of which goes to the VA, more healthcare). That money is enough that it alone should pay for single payer healthcare, and would in other countries. But our government run healthcare isn’t allowed to negotiate fully, and has to compete with private healthcare. So it’s hamstrung and we get screwed.

      Just eliminating insurance would reign in prices significantly.

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      If you use the best estimates for both the cost of M4A and the savings from replacing our current system

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    Noo that’s Socialism you can’t just prioritize society over capital

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        yeah. just like most things in life, the only way to make things better is to ignore them and pretend they don’t have problems.

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    If America had universal healthcare they’d actually need to tax less because it is the more efficient system.

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    America already pays more per capita into their Medicare/Medicaid system then most countries with universal healthcare. Just stop adding an extra zero to every line item on a medical bill and you will cover the cost of universal healthcare.

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      Private insurers and unlimited spending from big pharma lobbyists ensure US politicians keep those extra 0s right where they are, and that we get worse medical outcomes as a bonus on top.

      Besides, the capitalists want us dependent on jobs for healthcare. Much easier to manipulate and exploit the workers that way.

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    I fucking hate that whole hospital wings are named after rich people as if they are doing something good for this world.

    Those hospital wings are paid for by ill-gotten gains

    Just keep that money in the public purse to begin with and fund the hospital properly instead of waiting for some billionaire to jerk himself off with “philanthropy”

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      Now take that sentiment to a logical example and criticize the Gates Foundation and watch the downvotes and ad-hominem pour in.

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    I’m totally fine with taxing the fuck out of billionaires, but imo I think corporations need more attention when it comes to taxation. Trillion dollar companies exist. There shouldn’t even be billion dollar companies.

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    Y’all. This is a wildly simplistic take. We could take every penny from every American billionaire and not even get close.

    We have to tax high-income folks, corporations, etc. We have to roll back the Trump tax cuts.

    And more importantly, we have to craft a solid message. And yes, that means emotional propaganda, not facts. Democrats have to SELL this. Facts don’t sell. Emotions sell.

    Remember all the low-income idiots freaking out over Biden wanting to raise taxes on incomes over $400,000? We can laugh about how dumb those people are, but we aren’t winning votes.

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      The top 10% of families in America hold 76% of the country’s wealth. You are the one giving the incorrect and simplistic take.

      You can absolutely fund tons of important measures by taking from the rich.

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        I’m talking about billionaires, not the top 10%. Those are wildly different groups.

        You want to talk about taxing the snot of of the 10%, I’m game.