• jol@discuss.tchncs.de
    732·
    1 year ago

    People that say this are so silly.

    You’re not being oppressed. It’s just that saying merry Christmas to a crowd of diverse backgrounds is like wishing your mum a happy fathers day. She won’t be mad or offended, she’ll just think she should have breastfed you.

    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
      30·
      1 year ago

      No you don’t understand, if I can’t force everyone to be exactly like me that means I’m being oppressed!

      • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
        11·
        1 year ago

        Most “traditions”, including holiday traditions, food culture, etc, are incredibly recent things. But people cling to it like they are the totality of their identify.

    • black_rain@lemmy.world
      16·
      1 year ago

      Or telling someone “happy birthday “ when they’re in a group of people who aren’t having birthdays themselves. Only a three year old would get upset that they’re not included.

    • Wrrzag@lemmy.ml
      8·
      1 year ago

      Maybe it’s different in the US and other cultures, but as an atheist I’ve never seen the phrase as a very religious thing. I say “merry Christmas” and “happy holidays” indistinctly and I’ve never seen anyone offended by the use of either, independtly of their faith (or lack thereof).

      I say “merry Christmas” on the actual Christmas day though.

      • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
        4·
        1 year ago

        No one is offended besides the hardcore Christians. No muslim or orthodox Christian or whatever would be mad if you wish them merry Christmas if that’s the thing where you both live. As always, it’s fake fabricated outrage.

  • Yamainwitch@lemmy.world
    47·
    1 year ago

    I have a neighbor just like this who INSISTS this is a Christian country and it’s Christmas break not WiNtEr break. Satan’s greetings from ya main witch! ✨🥰

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
    312·
    1 year ago

    True story…

    At work in my department they told us we can put decorations in our (at home!) office but to try and stay religiously neutral. Meanwhile in my friend’s department (same employer) they got an email to wish employees a happy Easter back in April, happy Mawlid (celebration of Muhammad’s birth) back in September and happy Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah in October…

    I’m an atheist so I don’t celebrate any of these things and to me holidays should just be spread equally to give people long weekends, but I can’t help but laugh at the hypocrisy when it comes to Christmas compared to all other holidays through the year…

    • Grayox@lemmy.mlOP
      271·
      1 year ago

      That’s honestly refreshing to hear that your friends department encouraged them to celebrate multiple different religious holidays. There shouldn’t be any problem celebrating religious holidays as long as they are all given equal considerations and the company doesnt play favorites.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        12·
        1 year ago

        To me anything religious should be treated as such, something private that has nothing to do with your workplace and only secular holidays should exist considering holidays are imposed by the government and there’s supposed to be a separation of religion and State (in my country anyway), but I know my opinion on this subject is pretty extreme.

        • can@sh.itjust.works
          81·
          1 year ago

          The holidays we have are so commercialized they hardly feel religious to me. Christmas and Easter are just times to spend with family, nothing to do with Jesus.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            31·
            1 year ago

            What annoys me, and I’m Jewish ethnically but I’m an atheist, is the commercialization of Hanukkah. It wasn’t even a major Jewish holiday. People just decided, “well, it’s near Christmas and they used to give raisins. Good enough.” I mean just make up a new holiday or something.

          • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            1 year ago

            Then people should have no issue with them being moved around so the holidays are equally divided throughout the year, right? There’s no importance to them happening on the specific dates they do at the moment, right?

    • ItDoBeHowItDoBe@lemmy.world
      9·
      1 year ago

      I think that is is important to note that there is very little real evidence for Christmas being taken from saturnalia. You can google christmas and saturnalia and come up with plenty of web articles, but looking at the actual history of it makes it pretty clear. Christmas takes place around the same time of saturnalia, sure, but that does not make it a Christian stab at replacing it. Saturnalia was traditionally observed between the 17th and 23rd of December, not the 25th. It was a 5-7 day festival, not a one day festival. Additionally, the church is said to have gotten the 25th by taking the day John’s father was told he would have a son (shortly after the day of attonement), the new testiment statement that Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when Jesus was conceived, and adding 40 weeks to the end for the average pregnancy. This would put Jesus born in late December. This general time line was documented as being calculated as early as CE 200s.

    • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      The man on the TV said people would get angry at me for saying merry Christmas - the guy in the $6,000 suit - COME ON

  • SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de
    15·
    1 year ago

    I work with people in three different time zones. There is always someone having a flower festival, religious day or national holiday. Nobody gets offended for forgetting a holiday or if they did they don’t last long.

    • SPRUNT@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      They only support fascism-lite because it’s the next step on the way to pure-fascism.