“God damnit don’t take your mask off while the proles are watching us, you’re going to ruin the surprise!” - French Lizard Person
Isn’t it illegal crime in Europe or Germany at least? meanwhile there aare Germany far-right ads showing retard whites doing hiel salutes
Worse, we have Trump and Netyenyu planning, advocating, and executing ethnic cleansing, and Germany, the UK, and Eurpo send their billions in support of it. They’ve been nazis for long already
Well it sure is a nice change of pace for the French to stand up to Nazis for once.
Plenty of French did. France was divided before the war, fought against Germany, and then had a government of the fascists instilled. If the UK had fallen something similar would’ve happened
Combine this with German polls showing a drop in AfD support this month since Vance’s meeting with them (https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/), and you have actual European Nazis looking at the Trump administration and collectively saying “whoah, maybe dial it down a bit.”
Fascism is often a pipeline. Not everyone who votes for the far right is fully on board with everything they wish to do quite yet. They’re really good at making you think that the people more than a step or two right of you aren’t that big of a deal. They see the people waving swastikas as not a big group or a particularly influential one. Similar to how the center left sees the people waving black and red flags. I’d even go so far as to say that on both sides a decent chunk of political propaganda is pointing at the other side’s cranks and far [side] members.
The difference is aside from the crux of the ideology and inherent morality contained within that, that the far right has a lot of power over the right, while the left is routinely bending over to centrists of both the left and right. However, people are idiots. If they weren’t we wouldn’t be in this mess.
In 2017 in Charlottesville North Carolina, the American fascist movement made a bad call. In an attempt to shift the overton window to their acceptance, demonstrate power, and create a unified movement they organized a rally to unite the right. Images of swastikas, fasches, and angry young men in business casual clothing carrying tiki torches and chanting antisemitic slogans alongside a dead young woman who protested against them became the image of the far right for a time. Short attention spans, a global pandemic, the economic crisis caused by that, and sustained propaganda from the right (especially regarding left wing protests against police brutality) led to people slowly stopping thinking about it.
Right now America is a bit too divided and radicalized for this to impact us. But other countries are seeing this and us torpedoing international relationships and making clearly stupid choices and they’re asking themselves if they want to be associated with people who support the politics of Adolf Hitler and don’t believe in regulating food safety.
Fyi politico is owned by Springer who are partially responsible for the German shift to the (far) right.
How so? (Not trying to start an argument; am genuinely curious for sources because I found it hard to find info when I googled this)
Edit: not the politico being owned by Springer, but Springer being partially responsible for the rightward shift
Springer is the publisher of Bild and Welt (among others) , two major German papers (Bild is the biggest in Germany).
Especially Bild is known for its right wing populist tendencies
Some more recent examples (all in German for obvious reasons)
- their own former (vice) editor in chief of accused them of spreading Afd (Far right/partially facist party) naratives: https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/medien/ex-bams-chef-rechnet-mit-bild-zeitung-ab-3991837.html
- Recently Bild has been credibly accused of pushing a narrative against a clean-heating law on behave of Springers owner, a fossil fuel company, https://www.lobbycontrol.de/lobbyismus-und-klima/springer-konzern-nutzte-hauptaktionaer-kkr-den-medienkonzern-fuer-politische-einflussnahme-118529/
- during the euro-crisis they pushed an anti-Greek narrative https://taz.de/Studie-der-Otto-Brenner-Stiftung/!5123284/
- they have been actively supporting for the current CDU-front runner in bevoming the CDUs candidate over more moderate options (Merz is on the right of the CDU, the big conservative party in Germany: https://bildblog.de/104902/bild-am-rande-des-merzinfarkts/
- during Covid they pushed against lockdowns and ‘the politicians responsible’: https://www1.wdr.de/daserste/monitor/sendungen/bild-skandal-macher-100.html
- intended (and did) directly push the Fdp (libertarian party) to avoid the “red-green disaster” (i.e. a coalition of Spd (center-left) and greens (also center-left)) during the last election: https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kann-man-noch-mehr-fuer-die-FDP-tun--article24049439.html
- played a major part in agitations against refugees during the so called ‘migrant-crisis’: https://forumwk.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Medienanalyse_Flucht_Migration-1.pdf
- this was their front page just now (we have a national election tomorrow):
![the top headline says: "The Left is done - Merzes last words ahead of the election.
The one on the bottom left says "Jogi Löw [former soccer coach] calls for Germany first"](https://feddit.org/pictrs/image/203aad44-24a4-4f76-ade9-ef75e74e40d1.jpeg)
There is honestly a lot more I could put here. In Germany the Bild is well known as a populist right wing paper. It is not exactly new either. A famous quote from the Punk-Rock song ‘Lasse Redn’ (2008) when describing the papers content is “Angst Hass Titten und der Wetterbericht” (fear, hate, tits and the weather). The common hastag when talking about them in left-leaning circles is #haltdiefresseBild (shut up Bild). There even is a Browser extension dedicated to block all Springer owned or published products.
While some of its other papers seem more nuanced at fist glance, they often push similar narratives packaged for their respective audiences.
“woah dial down the nazi a bit, Mr JD VANCE”- french nazis
Funny enough, Trump’s remarks about Canada are hurting their conservative party as well. I just hope it’s enough, y’all better get out and vote
America finally making good on its goal of spreading democracy around the world.
yea Polliviere was trying to suck trumps knob despite trump wanting to enact tariffs on canada.
2nazi4me
I hadn’t seen that latest wave of polls.
I know Die Linke saw an uptick, but damn that’s wonderful. If the
Nazi PartyAfD can get down under 15% in the next week and Die Linke could get up over 10%, that would be much appreciated, Germany.in the next week
Elections are tomorrow, not next weekend.
Unless you’re talking to an Afd voter , then they’re next week ;)
I’ve heard this several times… what specifically did Vance do that seemed to shake Afd support?
I’m not actually convinced it was Vance specifically. Their support seemed to grow a bit after the US election gave their movement a bit more legitimacy, but then started back the other way when people saw what it means in action. Vance’s visit was timed at roughly the peak, but, snark aside, it’s probably more correlation than causation.
The actions of the Trump administration as a whole are a more plausible cause of any slight erosion of support.
What’s happening in the American Reich is inspiring a very strong sense of European patriotism like I’ve never seen before among common people around me.
It’s pretty ironic, yet makes sense, that European unity could be achieved this sad way.
It is very sad. But I think Europe is really going to have to unify even more as America turns somehow to both isolationism and imperialism.
He’s also pretty unlikable.
with his many gaffes in june and july, with his fake" paraphelias with dolphins and couches", and then theres the issue of him wearing eyeliner, and crossdress and associating with THIEL, MSM is complicit in trying to bury the last parts, and then theres the issue he may not be entirely straight much like how MSM dont report on lindseys identity.
They’re not disagreeing, they’re just worried that it’s going too fast. Europe has been slowly going nazi but americans are a step further, and european politicians are worried that it will make people realize the fascisation of their societies.
And pretending to be against what’s happening in the US is reassuring the enlightened centrists.
silly speculative twaddle
Yes, you certainly are.
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Is there a running list of US public figures who have publicly performed Nazi salutes?
nazi barbie did it first when she was at cpac/or a fox aware show(aka laura ingharam). in the 80s or 90s, she outed a person for being LGBTQ+ by recording them in secret and reporting it.
wtf is Nazi barbie
Whoa thats some dirty dealing. what a asshole.
We could call it a Hit list.
There should be.
