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      They like the idea of somebody they think is on their side not giving a shit about the law, and they’re too dull-witted and emotionally invested to recognize the simple fact that somebody who doesn’t give a shit about the law doesn’t give a shit about them either, and will betray them to get what he wants exactly as easily as he broke the law to get what he wants.

      That’s the thing with tyrants. They pretty much never come to power entirely on their own. It’s nearly always the case that they come to power because some significant number of people ignored the clear warning signs and supported them anyway - actually believed that supporting this transparently power-hungry lying sack of shit was a good thing.

      And then by the time those people figure out the score, it’s too late.

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      Kinda like genocide not being a deterrent for democrats.

      I could kill and starve millions of brown people around the world and not lose a single voter.

      Paraphrasing Joe Biden

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    Weird messaging choice. I guess they don’t want anyone to just sit back and assume sentencing will solve everything, but this seems like downplaying a major beneficial event. Like, you can at least pump it up for a weekend rather than telling voters it doesn’t really matter and trying to move on immediately.

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    If the Biden campaign knew up from down they wouldn’t be polling in the thirties.

    I think we see Niki Haley restart her campaign, and I think there is a real possibility we see Mitt Romney throw his hat into the ring.

    Guarantee the Haley camp is discussing this right now.

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        Trumpers ain’t leaving Trump. 100%.

        But Trump voters aren’t all Trumpers. The RNC isn’t a monolith. Plenty of them went with Trump as the most likely to win.

        But now there is blood in the water. My guess is that there is between 10-15% of Trump voters who are die hard Trumpers who won’t move on from Trump, maybe ever. The rest are on a spectrum that can be moved. There is at least a non-zero percent of voters that for them, but if he’s seen as no longer viable… well that does change things. Perception matters a lot here. Its the electability aspect, that a felon just can’t become elected.

        If its 3-10% of Republican likelies, that’s a huge difference.

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          10-15%? Trump won the republican primary in 2016. There are more than half of Republicans that support Trump. That race wasn’t even close. The recent one was absurd how much it favored him.

          Republicans don’t care about “electability” anymore. I don’t think anyone does, for their own chosen candidate. Biden certainly doesn’t look too good, but he’s got firm support as well. The optics thing has flown the coop.

          Trump will be nominated even if he is in jail. As far as whether he is elected, we will find out.

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            I think you misunderstand me or I wasnt clear enough.

            I meant that there will be a 10-15% cohort still voting Trump in 2040 after he’s dead and buried because that was a ‘false’ flag and actually Trump was JFK and actually his robot soul was captured by Neuralink and if you write his name enough times on a mirror backwards then he’ll become president Jesus again. Like there are 10-15% of people who will be voting for Trump, regardless of who the nominee is, and may never vote for anyone ever again.

            I also think there are gradations within the RNC. I don’t think its a monolith. I think some, probably about as many those who can-not, can be moved away from Trump, not for moral or any kind of ‘good’ reasons, other than voting for him seems like a less strategic vote.

            He might still end up being the nominee. But like the DNC, the RNC has no commitment to follow the will of their voters. If he is in jail and can’t directly influence things, who knows.