This stood out to me:
The poll comes also as Republicans hold a slight partisan edge over Democrats, which shows that 45% of Americans are Republican or lean-Republican, while 42% are Democrat or lean-Democratic, per Gallup.
That’s a change from previous years, including in 2022, when an equal number of Americans said they consider themself a Republican or a Democrat.
Democrats held a partisan edge over Republicans in 2020, 2018 and 2016, per the average of Gallup party affiliation polls from those years.
I’ve been feeling like I’ve been living in a different reality for almost a decade at this point. The world just doesn’t make fucking sense at all.
I think it’s pretty unreal that everything that has happened in the wake of the 2020 election and January 6th and Roe and so much more has apparently only cemented people in their partisanship. Absolutely wild.
My theory is that many westerners in our current era have effectively replaced traditional religion with shallow political ideology.
So instead of going to church so they can be surrounded by fellow believers and hear a sermon telling them that their faith is the one true way and that every evil is rightly blamed on the loathsome unbelievers and heretics, they go online so they can be surrounded by fellow believers and hear a sermon telling them that their faith is the one true way and that every evil is rightly blamed on the loathsome unbelievers and heretics.
Seriously.
My theory is that many westerners in our current era have effectively replaced traditional religion with shallow political ideology.
I don’t really think traditional religion has been replaced by political ideology per se. But I do think religion in the US has formed a symbiotic relationship with politics.
If you go to an evangelical church service in many areas, it is pretty much nothing but a Republican political meeting. In some churches, you’re not even welcome if you’re a Democrat.
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The two things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Yes - some number of people have melded religion and politics. There’s nothing new in that.
But I’m talking about a different dynamic.
Religion is only in part, and arguably not even primarily,about deities and creation myths and such. To some significant degree, and arguably primarily, it’s about establishing and maintaining a sense of identity and community, and providing self-affirmation. People adopt and practice religion in large part so that they can self-apply a label that represents a particular set of values and virtues that they wish to project, and so that they can surround themselves with, and gain positive feedback from, like-minded fellow believers.
To that end, each religion has a set of values and virtues that are presumed to be possessed by whoever wears their label, a designated community of believers, a set of beliefs to reassure the believers that theirs is the one true faith, and a designated set of enemies upon whom to blame all wrong and toward whom to direct their hatred, reinforcing both their sense of virtue and their sense of community.
And those things are the things for which a growing number of people in the west are turning to politicsl ideology. They’ve just filled all the gaps that would otherwise have been filled by traditional religion with secular counterparts. They still have a faith which they share with fellow believers, they still have a label they can wear to designate their faith, they still have tracts and preachers and their sermons, which are still alternately about the inherent correctness of their own faith and the evil of the heretics and unbelievers, they still have a set of morals by which they can maybe attempt to live their own lives, but much more importantly, against which they can judge others, and so on.
It’s really all of the same sorts of things serving the same purposes - it’s just different insofar as it’s centered on politics instead of religion.
I don’t think it’s even particularly notable except insofar as so many seem to be completely unaware of it. In fact, I would say that that broad dynamic of seeking identity and community and self-affirmation by investing oneself in some specific belief system and joining with others who share those beliefs and thus that identity is one of the most common and basic human traits. For some reason, it’s come to be associated (and often disparagingly) with traditional religion, but people actually do the same thing with any number of different ideas or credos.
And currently, and particularly in the west and particularly online, a significant number of people do it with politics.
I believe this too and I don’t even think it’s controversial, I think it’s fairly mainstream tbh.
Look at that stupid conservative congresswoman who got up in front of a bunch of conservatives at a “prayer breakfast” and said, totally casually, she only made it on time because she turned her boyfriend’s request for a quickie down.
These people aren’t religious, they don’t even know what it means to be religious.
You just explained everyone on Lemmy and Reddit lol
It’s a little hard to enforce an echo chamber as a single user in a federation.
Seems like past a certain point people will just keep doubling down because turning back would be admitting that you’ve been a fool.
What is crazy about American politics is that “one side” is not just wrong or misguided, but very wrong, demonstrably so. So very wrong that it is insane from an outsider pespective to try to imagine by what wild loops of logic you could end up so very wrong considering that we’re all supposed to be watching the same movie. You can point at basically anything, on any issue at random, and try to reverse engineer the Republican stance on an issue, and you will face absolutely paper thin, weak arguments, weak premises, unverifiable claims every time, about everything, and in a very unmistakable way that the line of reasoning is, again, not just a bit wrong, but very wrong.
I knew a lot of people weren’t very good at that abstract thinking stuff, making deliberate assumptions and at identifying signal from noise, but frankly, I did not expect almost half of the human race to be absolute morons when it comes to critical thinking. Good luck everyone.
Yup. Before the Trump cult, I never truly understood how Hitler could have come to power. Now I totally get it.
Trump’s followers have stayed loyal to him through every deplorable moment: the pussy grabbing, mocking the disabled, the Muslim ban, kidnapping children at the border, collusion with Russia, extorting Ukraine, hush money to a porn star, stealing from charity, lying about an election, staging an insurrection, stealing classified documents, civil liability for rape … Not to mention lying about covid, and botching the covid response and killing hundreds of thousands who could have lived, all while utterly destroying the economy.
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The internet and access to information immediately has really been a wild ride.
In the beginning it was amazing though…lol
Same, the world just seems to be getting more “confusing” and “hectic”, not sure if it’s just that as we get older and more “aware” we start to notice the things that don’t seem to make sense around us.
I try to think each generation before me had the same feeling, like the world is getting smaller and faster. And everyone is just trying to get by without regard for the people around them or future generations.
I feel the same way, for what it’s worth.
Never should have opened that black sarcophagus.
Most people feel this way because they spend their time in echo chambers and think everyone they disagree with is a nazi
What’s sad about this is that both of them are even candidates to begin with. America has become a huge joke, and I doubt I’ll ever be able to see it differently.
This country fuckin sucks
“In the half century of modern presidential primaries, no candidate who led his or her nearest rival by at least 20 points at this stage has ever lost a party nomination,” NYT’s Nate Cohn writes.
That makes sense, it would probably be part of the reason why DeSantis’s former backers are dropping off. He severely overestimated how much the average Conservative cares about “wokeness,” and it bit him in the ass.
Yeah it works on his base but when you enter the larger voting population, you need to bring more than a culture war.
Although, I say that and how Trump is there bewilders me. I don’t know how anybody is a republican, actually.
The hope is that Trump vs. DeSantis is a battle to death. Or Trump wins over DeSantis, and ends up behind bars where he belongs.
IIts like watching an alcoholic drink themselves to seath
While screaming and beating their family.
I’ve never seen a “Biden 2024 make conservatives cry again” bumper sticker, but that kind of toxicity is commonplace in the republican party
It’s all about winning.
It’s about the illusion of winning. The average Republican voter votes against their best interests but does so to stick it to the left.
The USA votes it’s president in with the Electoral College. Every poll talking about “voters … tie … blah …blah …blah” doesn’t mean shit, cause the voters don’t get to pick the president. Their representatives do. And guess what, their representatives don’t have to represent them. They can vote however they want. They can even get elected and then switch parties to the bad guys team. Also, fuck the GOP.
This poll is crap
As a Republican… we don’t like DeSantis because he’s a career politician. Republicans don’t like career politicians.
(Yes, that means we don’t like most republicans in office)
Please don’t act like your party or its voters have any logical consistency. We’ve been paying attention.
I figured that would take a backseat to your love of attacking civil rights, harming minorities, and installing a Christian nationalist state. Trump did have some wins in that department, but DeSantis would certainly be more affective in that regards.
I know y’all are a hive mind but that doesn’t mean everyone is
Republicans don’t like career politicians
I know y’all are a hive mind but that doesn’t mean everyone is
You imply Republicans all have the same opinion and then accuse others of being a hivemind. Curious…
Remember the strategy Karl Rove pushed the GOP to in the early 2000s – accuse your opponent of what you’re doing first.
Sorry the word most should’ve been in front of republicans I suppose
Observing the words and actions of conservatives, these are logical conclusions. I don’t need anyone else to spell out what’s so plainly obvious.
Do you dislike career politicians because you think they are somehow more corruptible than your average Joe Schmoe whom you’d like to share a beer with? Or do you just hate the idea of government being run by people who know what the fuck they’re doing?
Trump was not a career politician and he did a horrible job. Maybe you should reevaluate your criteria for good leadership qualities.
I mean why would it have to be some random person? That’s why we have elections supposedly
Give one example of what the Republicans have done that you support
I don’t support many republicans but I like that they don’t let emotion control their decisions
This has to be a joke response, right?
lemmy.world/u/KoofNoof seems like as good as any to block.
No problem with a rapist and traitor being charged under the espionage act?
Biden?
As a former Republican, I call bullshit. The longest serving members of the Senate are Republicans, and one is your party’s leader in the Senate. You guys love constantly re-electing your fossils just as much as the Dems do.
Just because people are voting for them doesn’t necessarily mean they want them there. It just means they’d rather have a Republican there than a Democrat.
The fossils are winning the primaries too. They don’t get a chance to run against Dems if you choose non-career Republicans over them in the primaries. You generally don’t just like the dems dont.
I’m not trying to antagonize here, but what is it about a career politician that is negative? In any other field, longer experience is considered a good thing.
From my perspective on the other side of the aisle, it seems like it’s the young, fresh politicians who are abandoning decorum and generally making as ass of themselves while the older generation (with some exceptions) are at least committed to the appearance of self control.
Wouldn’t necessarily be a negative but there shouldn’t be multimillionaire politicians
